De-stinking Penelope

[Flyboy]

Ouch indeed, man, that is disapointing.
Dale, I don't believe a good second hand crank will put you out too much, these things are generally bullet proof, as you know, and demand for cranks is very low, I doubt they command any sort of premium price, usually you can't give them away, as they so seldom fail.
Or being the resourceful fellow you are, you may have a friend of a friend who is very friendly at an engineering shop who can weld it up and grind it down for you.
Not sure what the cheaper option will be.

[rustybronco]

Flyboy, I look at it as nothing more than a minor setback. Hopefully the rest of the internals are ok, although off hand it felt like there was a little more play in the trans than I'd care for.

As someone once said, to measure is to know and this weekend I'll be a measuring.

[chuck hahn]

Dale..red Xs here too..whats the scoop on pics???

[Guest]

About a dozen on e-bay. Crankshafts that is. Yes, their not cheap.
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_...nkshaft&_sacat=

[Nessism]

About a dozen on e-bay. Crankshafts that is. Yes, their not cheap.
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_...nkshaft&_sacat=

$109 shipped isn't too bad...http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-1978-...#ht_797wt_1163

How much does it cost to ship a crank anyway?

[Guest]

$109 shipped isn't too bad...http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-1978-...#ht_797wt_1163

How much does it cost to ship a crank anyway?

I see several shipping quotes of around $52.
Which is more than a set of whole GS1000 mufflers I shipped UPS oversize from Florida to Arkansas, $50.

[Matchless]

I felt that pain right over on this side
I think you will feel much better once you have it all apart and the damage assessed.
Good luck from this side!

[rustybronco]

Dale..red Xs here too..whats the scoop on pics???

Sometimes links don't like to imbed in a posting properly. I've up loaded them to imageshack for you.

I don't need the crank just yet, I need to finish splitting the cases and check all the internals. That cap screw for the starter clutch had to end up somewhere and no telling what path it took or what else may have gotten hammered. When it's apart and any damaged assessed we'll definitely be talking.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5189/img2658i.jpg

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1820/img2660xg.jpg

[Guest]

My project took a turn for the worse...

Needs a crankshaft and possibly more after I split the cases.

Ok, edumacate me please Dale... to my completely ignorant eyes it simply looks like there's a buggered bearing sitting on top of the starter clutch, but I realise there's something more to it...

I didn't need to pull my starter clutch off so have no idea what it's supposed to look like, and I don't know how similar it is to the 4 cylinders...

[rustybronco]

Ok, edumacate me please Dale... to my completely ignorant eyes it simply looks like there's a buggered bearing sitting on top of the starter clutch, but I realise there's something more to it...

Pete, What you looking at is a bearing that had destroyed it's self and in the process of 'grenading' has also destroyed the proper surface finish a bearing requires to ride on. Basically the surface is galled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galling

http://www.alpha-sports.com/spst/1982%20GS450E/49.gif

Yours has the same style starter clutch.

[chuck hahn]

Is the crank case hardened or not? If not, I would go over to a local bearing house and find an oversized one that will fit the ID of the clutch and just have the od of the crank lathed to accept the new bearing. But if its a case hardened arrangement your up chits creek. By OVERSIZED i mean thicker rollers in the bearing itself..like maybe 1.2 MM or so. That area of the crank is plenty thick enough to accept some lathe work. I dont Know if PEZCO in Madison Hgts is still in business but if they arent you cann take it to ABC (?) over there too. think about it and I can work my sources for you.

[rustybronco]

Chuck, with the markings on the crank, I rather put a crank in it.

Let me inspect the rest of the engine and see what I need, then you can work your sources and let me know if they have and how much $$$. With the play in the trans, I might be better off buying the complete lower half.

It's all speculation at this point.

[chuck hahn]

let me know...worse comes to worse I will ship you that spare engine I had thats over at Randys.

[Guest]

Pete, What you looking at is a bearing that had destroyed it's self and in the process of 'grenading' has also destroyed the proper surface finish a bearing requires to ride on. Basically the surface is galled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galling

http://www.alpha-sports.com/spst/1982%20GS450E/49.gif

Yours has the same style starter clutch.

Got ya Dale! Thanks for that, and now I see very clearly what the issue is... and I agree with the other guys... ouch

[rustybronco]

Pete, Obviously this Bike has led a hard life.

There's a mounting boss for the chain cover that's been broken off, which more than likely, was caused by a chain that had proper maintenance it's whole life

The damage done to the crank both internally and on the 'snout' of it would lead one to worry about the rest of the engine internals. Thankfully the cam journals show no damage and that leads me to believe the bike has at least had oil in it most of it's life. I don't know if that's enough to be thankful about, but it's a step in the right direction.