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  • D-Mac
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    I picked up a small parts washer today, a lot of Simple Green concentrate, and a bunch of brushes. Rather than trying to set this up at home (where I have almost no space in my poorly-ventilated basement and it’s freezing and condensing rain in my unheated garage), I made the decision to temporarily re-locate to my office. It’s only a block from my house and I have thousands of square feet of lab space to use (complete with chemical-resistant tables/floors, air supply, vacuum lines, gas lines, de-ionized water, fume hoods, heavy-duty ventilation, comfy chairs, music, enormous sinks, and bad coffee). Best of all, we already use Simple Green to clean everything in the labs, so the smell of my parts washer will be familiar to everyone who works there.

    Here is my parts washer station.

    Note the fume hood.

    My first attempt was to scrub 30-years worth of grime from behind the sprocket cover. This is easily the dirtiest piece on the bike.

    10 minutes of scrubbing and nearly all of the crud was off. Not perfect, but good. This is the piece I drilled into, and I also discovered a crack along the bottom that goes all the way through. The washer pump was so clogged that the pump was dying, so I had to empty it out when I was done.


    I like working in the lab so much that I’ve made the decision to move the ENGINE there as well. I’m close to removing it (should happen later today).
    More pics soon. Once I get the engine out, I’ll split my time between it and the other major components (tank/forks/wheels/seat/wiring…..ugh). After Christmas I’ll take it down to the bare frame for modifications and painting.

    Off the top of my head color ideas…..

    Option 1: SILVER+BLACK - Black frame, black/silver wheels (returned to the way they came from Suzuki), a little more silver on the triple trees (strip paint and polish), black headlight (?), and maybe a silver tank (painted since it’s steel) with a little black accent of some sort on it. Silver engine with black accents (perhaps the ends of the valve covers and the cylinder could be done in black). Sear cowling painted silver to match the tank with a black cushion. The more I think about it, the more it sounds like the colors on my RT!

    Option 2: RED HELL – Bright red frame (ok, maybe silver), wheels mostly silver/black, with a little red accent (calipers + inside of the wheels perhaps), red tank and seat cowling with a white racing stripe down the middle.

    Option 3: ????

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  • Motocrossx23
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    Good luck with this! You definitely have your work cut out for you, but believe when I say that once you get past the dirt and the grime, the broken bolts and headaches, it's going to be so nice when you see progress in the direction of something "clean and new"

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  • D-Mac
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    Still more updates....

    Next up I removed the counter-sprocket cover……the screws were already pre-stripped. Here it is removed.

    My little impact driver was having no effect, so I ran off to Sears and bought a much larger one. Heh heh. It made short work of three screws. The other three were too far gone, so I dremeled slots into two of them and got them off! This is my first time struggling this much with fasteners (small impact driver and heat has always worked for me before). I also have a set of Japanese screwdrivers, which usually helps, but these were just too far gone.

    The big problem was the one remaining screw at the back of the sprocket cover. It’s recessed, so all attempts to dremel a slot in it resulted in me carving a slot into the cover! Doh! I ended up drilling it off, and the release in clamping force allowed me to spin the shank off with my fingers. Unfortunately, since I couldn’t get the drill centered, I accidentally machined a little out of the cover. Argh.

    It’s a minimally important screw since it’s not fastening anything that holds in oil. I’ll probably stick an o-ring in there and see if that works. Replacement on Ebay is only $14 if that fails. It’s a bummer that I got so close to getting it off flawlessly. I’ll need to be more careful with the cases.
    Check out what was behind the sprocket cover. This is AFTER I removed about 2lbs of soil, pine needles, and pine cones from back there!

    Upon removing the sprocket cover, I discovered that the counter-sprocket was COMPLETELY LOOSE (not even hand tight). The only thing holding it on was a single bend in the locking piece! The sprocket is badly worn and looks to be an original (it has the right number of teeth anyway and it looks like a sprocket with 20,000 miles on it).

    Then it was off to the store for a 21mm socket to remove the oil drain plug. There was definitely some gas mixed in with the oil - likely from the stuck float bowls combined with the lack of a vacuum operated petcock shut-off. I was careful to check the oil level before I started the bike (made sure it wasn’t too full or thin), but I’m glad I didn’t run it too long like this! (The smaller dish to the right contains old brake fluid).

    My last project for the weekend was to remove and disassemble the calipers – also a first for me.
    I got them off the bike easily enough (although I forgot to loosen the rear ones on the bike so I marred the cover getting them apart in my undersized bench vice. Here’s the rear, which looks worse than the front.

    Would you trust your life to this?

    Inside, the seals and boots looked worn, but intact. The pads will be replaced along with all of the seals, etc. (no sense taking a chance on brakes!) Getting the caliper pistons out was a BEAR – especially one of the rear ones, which was rusted in place. After applying high pressure air, I got the worst one to turn enough to grab it and pull it out. I marred it in the process, but it is definitely getting replaced anyway.
    Ugh.

    I’m now boxing up everything I’ve removed so far. I’m off to buy a small parts washer (and fire extinguisher) tomorrow and then I’ll be looking over the calipers, removing and looking at the master cylinders, and pulling off more bits in preparation for removing the engine.
    I will have lots of time to work on the bike over the next couple of weeks.

    I’m a little ahead of myself, but any suggestions for a color scheme? I really like red/black/silver, but I’m clueless about what colors to put where. I’ve looked over all sorts of café bike pics but I have trouble making up my mind, so I’m very open to options. Everything is getting repainted except the engine if I can help it (although I might paint the cylinders to set them off from the bike a little).

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  • D-Mac
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    Edit (I think I'm messing up the Display Mode - I'm reposting this in an attempt to fix it).

    Update time!

    Since the petcock is completely blocked (even on prime I can’t get any fuel to come out, and the PO disconnected all the vacuum lines long ago) I rigged up an old fuel cell to the bike to try and start it.

    Below is a video of the bike running. Note the backfiring through the carbs and out the pod filters. Nice. With holes in the exhaust and loose aftermarket filters it’s obviously very lean. Carbs are probably pretty clogged as well and compression readings are still in the basement too. No matter – I will eventually run a leak-down test and likely rebuild the top end anyway. Carbs will get a full cleaning, rebuild, and complete rejetting on a dyno (I have some access to one and I’ll be doing a complete tune once it’s back in running order…..which will be a loooong time).


    Click on the video to watch it…..

    Now that I’ve determined that the R/R and possibly the stator are gone, it’s time to start pulling stuff off the bike. The next task was removing the exhaust pipes. Recall those rusted bolts on the headers? I soaked them in PB blaster+WD-40 for three days with cycles of heating and cooling. All were nice and loose when I started to remove them. Result? Less than ideal….

    Only THREE exhaust bolts came out cleanly. It turns out that another three were ALREADY broken off in the collar (!) and held on by some sort of glue/JBWeld/wire!? Lovely. I guess the previous owner decided that it would be ok to just glue the old bolt heads back on and forget about it!? The two that I broke snapped off with very little torque. Crap.

    I broke out into a bit of a cold sweat when the first one snapped off, but all but one stud is protruding a little, so there’s still some hope. I will continue to PB-Blast them. Worse-case scenario I’ll deal with it when I remove the cylinder (a little EDM can always save the day if I decide not to drill it out).
    Behold the OEM exhaust. Really heavy! It will likely be replaced with a 4-1.

    Up next was removing the rear wheel. It went well, but I rushed a bit and everything got hung up on the rear axle. A little maneuvering and it was out (needs grease, and I probably should check the run-out too).

    I removed the carbs next. Boots were stiff, but it’s very easy on this bike compared with some of the twins I’ve worked on. Note how they’re “bleeding” fuel on my work bench……right near a charging. I really gotta get a fire extinguisher for the garage.

    Then I removed the intake rubber pieces…..

    ….and I saw LOTS of this inside the engine!

    It looks like the PO was in love with gasket sealer. It flaked off in huge pieces in my hands. I wonder how much of this stuff the engine has digested?
    More in the next post….

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  • D-Mac
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    Lots of updates - some good, many not so good. The electrical problem has been isolated (bad R/R, although I'll probably replace the stator as well).

    I've entered the "tear down/assessment" phase now.

    I'll post lots of pics later today.

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  • Flyboy
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    IT RUNS!!!!
    Yeeeeehaaa, the sweetest sound, good job.
    Now you can tear into it with gusto.....expecting updates.

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  • D-Mac
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    Two fuses, a bunch of false starts, a small fuel spill, a bunch of missed meetings at work (I work a block away so I sneak home often), and one mental lapse, but IT RUNS!!!!

    Now I can re-do the compression test on a warm engine and find out what's wrong with the charging system too (previous owner says it won't charge - I didn't even have time to check the battery level while it was running).

    More info soon. Gotta fix a dishwasher and ferry my kids around first....

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  • Flyboy
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    Nice to see the progress, I like the clubmans.
    Don't sweat about the compresion readings to early, you will get wrinkles before your time.
    Fire it up and run it a bit, you will see the compression readings come up dramaticaly, the more yu run her, the better the readings will get, until they are right up there. Motors that have stood idle for a while do that, everything needs to heat up, work itself loose and seat in properly again.
    Lastly you may just have a bunch of tight valve clearances, do the shims and you know you are good.
    Keep up the good work.

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  • D-Mac
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    Originally posted by TheBigRed View Post
    I'm sure someone with more experience will be along shortly to correct this if it is wrong, but I'm pretty sure your compression readings are not valid as they were done on a cold engine. I'm pretty sure specs in manuals are for when taken on warm engines.
    You are correct - they are supposed to be done warm. I'm not convinced they'll be that much higher when (if) I get her started, but I will hope and see what happens.

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  • TheBigRed
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    I'm sure someone with more experience will be along shortly to correct this if it is wrong, but I'm pretty sure your compression readings are not valid as they were done on a cold engine. I'm pretty sure specs in manuals are for when taken on warm engines.

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  • GateKeeper
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    Take the petcock apart and see if anything is wrong with it, there are not many parts to it, and it could just be dirty, a good cleaning is all it might need and maybe a new seal
    Last edited by Guest; 12-03-2011, 04:05 PM. Reason: spelling

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  • D-Mac
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    Now for the BAD news. Since the starter now turns over, I used my compression tester and got the following readings (#1-4): 50, 60, 60, 40. Throttle wide open too. When I added some oil to two of the cylinders the compression did NOT change, which would suggest it's not the rings.

    The compression tester. My only hope is that Harbor Freight made a faulty one (not impossible, but unlikely).

    Even though the compression sucks, I'm gonna try and fire up the bike tomorrow. If the gauge is right, it shouldn't start. At that point, I'll need to beg/borrow/purchase/make a leak down tester and go from there. I reaaaalllly don't want to have to rebuild the top end, but we'll see what happens.

    I also drained the gas tank today.


    Ever see gas this color?!


    Petcock doesn't work (I assume on "prime" it's supposed to drain). Does ANYTHING on this bike actually work?!

    The offending part. I'll probably replace it rather than rebuild it. Not a high priority for now.


    The inside of the tank looks pretty good. Probably Kreem coated I think. I might end up re-doing it anyway with Caswell. We'll see. It doesn't seem to leak at present.

    On removing the petcock, it appears that there might have been a leak of some sort. Or maybe just an old dent repair. Bondo? JBWeld? Other? I'll be stripping the tank, so we'll find out later I guess.


    A minor ding.


    Other than the silly decals and minor surface rust, the tank is otherwise in good shape.

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  • D-Mac
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    Ok. So I made some progress on the bike today.

    The good news first.

    My replacement relay/solenoid arrived. Old one on the left, new one on the right. A quick continuity test showed hope.


    My replacement kill/starter switch also arrived (thanks again Ebay). Looks great and tested out 100%.


    So far so good. I hooked everything up and YES (!) the starter now turns over. I didn't try to start it yet (no fuel tank setup yet - I'll use a temporary one tomorrow).

    I also got this so that I can replace valve shims at some point.

    I bought these for checking clearances more easily.

    And this is probably a good idea too.


    In trying to balance tool purchases with "fun" items, I went ahead and ordered some cheapo clubman bars to see how they'd look. A few pics of the bars:

    Old


    New!




    Next post will have the BAD news.

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  • TheBigRed
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    Originally posted by D-Mac View Post
    Wow! Your bike looks gorgeous. It's great to see what mine would have looked like new.

    I'll snap some pics of the grab handle when I take it off (likely tonight) and PM you. If you like it, it's yours for the cost of shipping (I figure I've already saved a small fortune with the helpful advise I've found on here).

    Looking through the service manual, it does seem like the "T" was a bit of a parts bin model. It is pretty sweet though, with a classic 70s look mixed with a little 80s styling. The tech isn't bad either (rear disc brake is a nice touch - my 2002 Shadow didn't have that!).
    Thanks, I can't take total credit for it. Actually about all the credit I can take is the patience to not part it out when it was in pieces.

    In all honesty that is pretty much how it came to me, for the most part. Cosmetically the only differences are the seat (another member who was chopping their 550 sold me a pristine seat for a good price) was ripped when I got it, it was missing the grab bar (again another member was getting rid of the one I got due to chopping), and the front fender was chrome, I found that one on eBay the color is a perfect match but it is a plastic, not metal fender, but unless you get close you can't tell. Non-cosmetically second gear was shot and I drove it for a year or two totally skipping over that gear, thus a teardown and rebuild was started. I won't bore you with the details but there is a thread somewhere detailing the bits and how long it took.

    But yes, it is now a pretty good example of what a 550T would have looked like when new. All be it with some upgrades (allen bolts replacing all the philips on the cases etc, and exhaust studs rather than bolts).


    Amos

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  • D-Mac
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    Originally posted by Flyboy View Post
    Nice find, you have a good solid base to work from, I have seen way worse bikes brought back to life with some TLC by the members here.
    I will be following with interest.
    I think this is going to be a nice build, keep the updates and pics coming.
    Thanks. Your build thread is on my reading list for tonight.

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