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  • Agemax
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    • Apr 2008
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    #1

    MOTO GP Aragon. anyone watch it yet?

    what a race...... question is, was Marquez responsible for Pedrosa's mishap?
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  • Kiwi Canuck
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    #2
    Originally posted by Agemax
    what a race...... question is, was Marquez responsible for Pedrosa's mishap?
    answers on a postcard to Livio Suppo
    Saw it, pretty exciting race, especially for 3rd place.

    I think Pedrosa crashed on his own, but may have been distracted by what was happening beside him.

    I'm not sure if there was any contact, did anyone see if there was?
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    • Agemax
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      #3
      there was very slight contact, although it was almost impossible to see it on the TV
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        #4
        There's an article on the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/motogp/24323090) saying that the slight contact between Marquez and Pedrosa damaged the traction control on Pedrosa's bike, causing it to flip.

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        • Agemax
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          • Apr 2008
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          #5
          Originally posted by steveb922
          There's an article on the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/motogp/24323090) saying that the slight contact between Marquez and Pedrosa damaged the traction control on Pedrosa's bike, causing it to flip.
          yep, you got it........... Marquez's bike clipped Dani's swingarm, cutting the traction control sensor, sending him in to a highside when he whacked the throttle open on the exit of the corner.



          very unlucky for both of them. i wonder if HRC will be rethinking the position of these sensors now?
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          • Agemax
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            #6
            Dorna are apparantely investigating new evidence from newly released pictures from Aragon. ...........

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            • Kiwi Canuck
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              #7
              Originally posted by Agemax
              Dorna are apparantely investigating new evidence from newly released pictures from Aragon. ...........


              That's funny, priceless.
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              • Dogma
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                #8
                Yeah, but what rider would be insane enough to reach out and grab - Oh wait. Marquez.
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                • GregT
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Agemax
                  . i wonder if HRC will be rethinking the position of these sensors now?
                  I would certainly hope so - It looks vulnerable to start line collision damage too. Not HRC's usual standard....

                  The pic is amusing but brought back memories of racing locally in the late 60's - very physical....tyre marks on fairings and trips onto the grass followed by retaliatory fairing banging. When i made a comeback in the late 80's the local senior steward took me aside and lectured me that roadracing was not any longer a contact sport....
                  Last edited by GregT; 10-08-2013, 03:57 PM.

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                  • Agemax
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                    • Apr 2008
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                    #10
                    they are fitted in that position on all the GP bikes, the sensor works on a pick up on the rear disc. not sure what the sensor in front is for but it sure looks like it is secured on with velcro!!!!!
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                      #11
                      Unfortunate for Pedrosa, but yeah that sensor is just asking to be interfered with in that location... the contact was almost non existent and Marquez did well not to take them both out I think.

                      Just do what Stoner says, get rid of all the fancy schmancy electronic crap and bring on the power.

                      Not only will that sort the boys from the men but he'll come out of retirement too

                      Rossi might even come good again...

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                      • Wester Cooley

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pete

                        Just do what Stoner says, get rid of all the fancy schmancy electronic crap and bring on the power.

                        Not only will that sort the boys from the men but he'll come out of retirement too

                        Rossi might even come good again...
                        Smart man Stoner!!!

                        Get rid of the electronic crap, and like Tim Taylor would say...... MORE POWER!!!!!

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                        • Agemax
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                          #13
                          Surprisingly, Marquez has been penalized for that incident. another penalty point to add to his rookie collection!

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                          • GregT
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                            • Jul 2009
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                            #14
                            I see it's given as a punishment for the season as a whole so far...I've got to admit he has a habit of coming up on the rider in front very close and late into the corner,,,Sort of "lets see what happens here"...sometimes it's OK but sometimes it's not...
                            Personally i'd have expected someone senior from HRC to have sat him down for a chat before now...

                            I find it amusing that Honda are penalised for not having a properly functioning backup traction control...what's the rider for then ?

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                            • Dogma
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                              • Sep 2007
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                              • Mason, OH (SW)

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GregT
                              I find it amusing that Honda are penalised for not having a properly functioning backup traction control...what's the rider for then ?
                              The riders are routinely relying on TC to prevent highsides. If it's suddenly not there when the rider's expecting it, you get what happened to Pedrosa. He probably could have managed the bike old school if he had known the TC was borked.
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