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    #16
    I just re-read bwringer's post and he did mention using the Shinko 230's. Sounds like the 230 may not be better than the 712 for tread life.
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      #17
      It's only been a couple of weeks but I can honestly say that the Shinko 712 sucks in the wet! When you're going along at 4k in 3rd gear and goose the throttle a bit to get through a light and the back tire breaks loose that's not a good thing. Also managed to get it locked up a couple of times hitting the rear brake hard. For a few bucks more the Shinko 230 is the better tire BUT it could be the 712 lasts a bit longer, seems like a harder compound with no sign of squaring yet.
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        #18
        I have not noticed that the Shinko 712 and 230 vary much in traction, feel, or longevity. I'd perhaps give a slight edge to the 230 for traction, and I have burned through more sets of the 230 than the 712. In any case, I can attest that the 230 works just dandy in the wet.

        Here's my torture test report on the Shinko 230 from the fall of 2012. Please note that the prices given are from many years ago, but the basic idea is about the same.

        Shinko 230 Torture Test - The GSResources Forums


        At that time, I put a lot more miles on my GS850G, so the more expensive but longer-lived Avon tires made better financial sense on a cost per mile basis. And of course that was back when Avon was still making motorcycle tires, so I guess you can ignore that bit aside from historical interest.

        Nowadays, since I ride this bike far less, I prefer to spoon on a fresh set of Shinkos every year or so rather than take longer to wear out far more expensive tires.​

        I have also become a significantly smaller galoot since then, although for some odd reason that hasn't made much difference in the tire life I get, just the suspension settings I use.
        Last edited by bwringer; 08-30-2023, 08:48 AM.
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          #19
          I just switched to BT46, from Shinko 712’s which I have used for years- shinkos are squirrelly on grooved pavement so I’m trying the Bridgestones to see if they are better on uneven pavement

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