The Bouncing Beast

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • exdirtbiker
    Forum Sage
    • Aug 2011
    • 1579
    • 2 miles from exit 89: Brick NJ

    #1

    The Bouncing Beast

    So the Beast came to me with Koni rear shocks. I was happy. Then I found the rear wheel bouncing violently under braking. I am no longer happy.
    ( I'm glad I was not in a curve at the time!)
    The shocks are "boingers", no damping at all.


    They say "7610F-1282"
    I look up that number, found out they belong on a GS400 or GN250?
    Anyone know if I should try to rebuild these, or will they always be too small for my bike?
    1980 GS1000G - The Beast - GOING... GOING... yup, it's gone. I'm bikeless !!! GAaaahh !!!
    1978 KZ1000C1 Police - GONE !
    1983 GPZ750, aka ZX750A1 - restored, fresh paint... Gave it back, it was a loaner !!!
    Check My Albums for some of the 30+ headaches I've dealt with

    I know -JUST- enough to make me REALLY dangerous !


  • Guest

    #2
    I don't know anything about shocks but if they are rated for a 400 or 250...NO, they will not suffice for your 1000.

    Comment

    • Grimly
      Forum Guru
      Past Site Supporter
      Super Site Supporter
      • Sep 2012
      • 5771
      • Ireland

      #3
      They might not even be genuine Konis - the GS400/GN250 origins makes me leary - there's a lot of Chinese factories knocking out cycle parts for those models as they're very popular there.
      You can have a factory put whatever name you like on a shock.
      Dave
      '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
      Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

      Comment

      • Big T
        Forum LongTimer
        Past Site Supporter
        Super Site Supporter
        • Mar 2005
        • 12401
        • West Slope, OR

        #4
        Well, the number is correct for Konis and it should say Koni on the top collar

        I'd pull the spring off one and manually check the dampening first

        Konis can be rebuilt, and parts are available, but it may be cheaper to buy some new shocks and sell these off to someone with a 550 or 450

        Plus, they're old. Koni stopped making bike shocks ages ago. Ikon makes them now

        Are you sure your braking issue isn't the result of a too soft front fork?
        Last edited by Big T; 06-12-2014, 10:59 AM.
        1978 GS 1000 (since new)
        1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
        1978 GS 1000 (parts)
        1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
        1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
        1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
        2007 DRz 400S
        1999 ATK 490ES
        1994 DR 350SES

        Comment

        • orourkei

          #5
          I love the look of that bike!

          Comment

          • tkent02
            Forum LongTimer
            Past Site Supporter
            • Jan 2006
            • 35571
            • Near South Park

            #6
            If they are rebuildable Konis and they fit a 1980 450 I need a pair for mine.
            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

            Life is too short to ride an L.

            Comment

            • Grimly
              Forum Guru
              Past Site Supporter
              Super Site Supporter
              • Sep 2012
              • 5771
              • Ireland

              #7
              I'd have another set of Marzocchis like a shot - until they succumbed to alloy collar rot, they were a good balance of stiffness and damping. The ones I fitted were originally on a GT750 Kwack so were kinda sorta the right spring rate, but Marz of the day were known to be a bit stiffer out of the box, so the match was fine.
              Dave
              '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
              Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

              Comment

              • exdirtbiker
                Forum Sage
                • Aug 2011
                • 1579
                • 2 miles from exit 89: Brick NJ

                #8
                They are real Koni.
                Wold anyone really pay for blown-out shocks? These things have no dampening left.. nothing.
                Suggestions on where to buy replacements?
                1980 GS1000G - The Beast - GOING... GOING... yup, it's gone. I'm bikeless !!! GAaaahh !!!
                1978 KZ1000C1 Police - GONE !
                1983 GPZ750, aka ZX750A1 - restored, fresh paint... Gave it back, it was a loaner !!!
                Check My Albums for some of the 30+ headaches I've dealt with

                I know -JUST- enough to make me REALLY dangerous !


                Comment

                • Nessism
                  Forum LongTimer
                  GSResource Superstar
                  Past Site Supporter
                  Super Site Supporter
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 35793
                  • Torrance, CA

                  #9
                  I think Progressives are the best value. Or Hagons. YS is the next step up (I think). Beyond that you are getting into big money.
                  Ed

                  To measure is to know.

                  Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                  Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                  Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                  KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

                  Comment

                  • exdirtbiker
                    Forum Sage
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1579
                    • 2 miles from exit 89: Brick NJ

                    #10
                    Wow, I just found re-build kits for $49 !

                    (but they still are the wrong ones for my bike)

                    THE ART OF BMW MOTORCYCLES Specializing in BMW Cafe Racers, BMW Scramblers, BMW Urban, BMW R-nine-T, BMW Restoration & Sidecars. BMW Performance, custom exhaust Motogadgets, Rizoma are just a couple of our suppliers. Thinking outside of the Box(er). THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOXER


                    and a "how-to" : http://forums.cycleworld.com/showthread.php?t=133679
                    1980 GS1000G - The Beast - GOING... GOING... yup, it's gone. I'm bikeless !!! GAaaahh !!!
                    1978 KZ1000C1 Police - GONE !
                    1983 GPZ750, aka ZX750A1 - restored, fresh paint... Gave it back, it was a loaner !!!
                    Check My Albums for some of the 30+ headaches I've dealt with

                    I know -JUST- enough to make me REALLY dangerous !


                    Comment

                    • exdirtbiker
                      Forum Sage
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1579
                      • 2 miles from exit 89: Brick NJ

                      #11
                      "If they are rebuildable Konis and they fit a 1980 450 I need a pair for mine."

                      tkent02, I would sell them to you, but you said bad things about my L , so you can't have them.
                      1980 GS1000G - The Beast - GOING... GOING... yup, it's gone. I'm bikeless !!! GAaaahh !!!
                      1978 KZ1000C1 Police - GONE !
                      1983 GPZ750, aka ZX750A1 - restored, fresh paint... Gave it back, it was a loaner !!!
                      Check My Albums for some of the 30+ headaches I've dealt with

                      I know -JUST- enough to make me REALLY dangerous !


                      Comment

                      • tkent02
                        Forum LongTimer
                        Past Site Supporter
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 35571
                        • Near South Park

                        #12
                        Originally posted by exdirtbiker
                        tkent02, I would sell them to you, but you said bad things about my L , so you can't have them.
                        Fair enough. But I see you sold the (L)adie's and bought a (G)entlemen's. You know.
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                        Life is too short to ride an L.

                        Comment

                        • exdirtbiker
                          Forum Sage
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 1579
                          • 2 miles from exit 89: Brick NJ

                          #13
                          Just kidding.
                          If / when I find something to replace these, you are first in line.
                          1980 GS1000G - The Beast - GOING... GOING... yup, it's gone. I'm bikeless !!! GAaaahh !!!
                          1978 KZ1000C1 Police - GONE !
                          1983 GPZ750, aka ZX750A1 - restored, fresh paint... Gave it back, it was a loaner !!!
                          Check My Albums for some of the 30+ headaches I've dealt with

                          I know -JUST- enough to make me REALLY dangerous !


                          Comment

                          • tkent02
                            Forum LongTimer
                            Past Site Supporter
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 35571
                            • Near South Park

                            #14
                            Originally posted by exdirtbiker
                            Just kidding. If / when I find something to replace these, you are first in line.
                            OK, cool!

                            I won't run out and buy any Ohlins or anything.

                            Thanks!
                            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                            Life is too short to ride an L.

                            Comment

                            • Big T
                              Forum LongTimer
                              Past Site Supporter
                              Super Site Supporter
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 12401
                              • West Slope, OR

                              #15
                              The kit says it fits all the 7610 series shocks, so you would be OK

                              Sell them to Tom and get some that are correct for your bike
                              1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                              1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                              1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                              1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                              1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                              1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                              2007 DRz 400S
                              1999 ATK 490ES
                              1994 DR 350SES

                              Comment

                              Working...