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  • davegs850
    Forum Mentor
    • Apr 2011
    • 162
    • buffalo

    #1

    Got new tires today

    I took the 850 in today and got new tires installed. Picked it up, went down the road a little then noticed my speedometer wasn't working. Could they have done something wrong when reinstalling wheel?? I have my suspicions!!! Also noticed after I went back and they disconnected the cable that my signals were not self cancelling. I assume this is cause the speedometer is disconnected. Just checking that my assumptions are correct.
    83 gs850
    07 vtx1300c
  • Steve
    GS Whisperer
    • Jun 2005
    • 35925
    • southwest oHIo

    #2
    You are correct. Look for the drive unit on the left side of the front axle. If the cable was detached, make sure the inner core is still present.

    The self-cancelling signals rely on a signal from the speedo cable to tell how fast you are going. For the signals to cancel, you must travel more than 10 MPH for more than 10 seconds. If it can't sense speed, it will assume you are not moving.

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    • Burque73
      Forum Sage
      Past Site Supporter
      • Mar 2016
      • 4713
      • Albuquerque, NM

      #3
      That's a bummer. Sometimes the two little tangs on the speedo drive gear get bent when they're installed wrong and it doesn't spin with the wheel. Mine did that and I was able to straighten it without issue.
      Roger

      '83 GS850G Daily rider
      '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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      • Rob S.
        Forum Guru
        Past Site Supporter
        • Dec 2013
        • 9407
        • New York City

        #4
        Why has no one commented on the incompetence of the shop?
        1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

        2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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        • Baatfam
          Forum LongTimer
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          • Jul 2006
          • 18760
          • Knoxville, TN

          #5
          Originally posted by Rob S.
          Why has no one commented on the incompetence of the shop?
          Because we just assume all shops are incompetent with old bikes?
          That's why most of us do the work ourselves.
          Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
          '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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          • alke46
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            • Sep 2008
            • 3214
            • Harrison, Ar.

            #6
            What ^^^^ he said.
            Larry

            '79 GS 1000E
            '93 Honda ST 1100 SOLD-- now residing in Arizona.
            '18 Triumph Tiger 800 (gone too soon)
            '19 Triumph Tiger 800 Christmas 2018 to me from me.
            '01 BMW R1100RL project purchased from a friend, now for sale.

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            • rphillips
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              • Jun 2005
              • 7622
              • Norene TN

              #7
              Yep, many times, with these old bikes, the bike is older than the guy working on it. Hope nothing is lost or missing, good luck.
              1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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              • LAB3
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                Past Site Supporter
                • Mar 2018
                • 3496
                • No fixed address

                #8
                Take it back and let THEM deal with it, there's no sense in paying for the parts to fix someone else's error. Keep in mind for next time that a set of tires irons off eBay, some balance beads and a can of silicone spray will cost about the same as mounting one tire and you'll have the tools and knowledge to do it yourself next time.
                2001 Kawasaki Voyager XII (Current bike)
                1982 GS450txz (former bike)

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                • Brendan W
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                  Past Site Supporter
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 4929
                  • Wexford, Ireland

                  #9
                  Yep. Bring it back. What's the bet the cable slipped out of engagement at the top and they just pushed the bottom back on and left it hanging by a few threads and out of engagement.
                  97 R1100R
                  Previous
                  80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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                  • Steve
                    GS Whisperer
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 35925
                    • southwest oHIo

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LAB3
                    Keep in mind for next time that a set of tires irons off eBay, some balance beads and a can of silicone spray will cost about the same as mounting one tire and you'll have the tools and knowledge to do it yourself next time.
                    No argument about the tire irons, but then, there are tire irons and then there are tire irons. Some are much better than others.

                    I have not used balancing beads, but know a few people who have. My mind still has trouble wrapping itself around the physics of it.

                    Personally, I would NOT use silicone. Silicone has no expiration date on the slipperiness. If you happen to hit the brakes just a little too hard not long after mounting the tires, it's possible that the rims will stop with the brakes, but the tires will keep rolling on the road. The best thing to use is proper tire lube. When I run out of that, I have been known to use some liquid dish soap. It at least dries so it's not slippery.

                    .
                    sigpic
                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                    • LAB3
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                      • Mar 2018
                      • 3496
                      • No fixed address

                      #11
                      Good point on the silicone Steve, that's something I hadn't considered. As to the beads, trust me (and others) they just work! Here's the irons I picked up a couple of months back, you're not gonna bend or break these things, that's for sure. There inside an old piece of inertube and strapped to my rear grab bar. https://www.ebay.com/itm/3pc-Motorcy...item1a6305a900
                      2001 Kawasaki Voyager XII (Current bike)
                      1982 GS450txz (former bike)

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Baatfam
                        Because we just assume all shops are incompetent with old bikes?
                        Lots of them aren't so hot with new bikes, either.


                        Mark

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