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Looks like the compact truck is back
The 2022 Ford Maverick looks to have some great potential, a 5 passenger vehicle that get's 40 MPG in the city with room in back for a little hauling. At $20k my guess is it'll sell pretty well, how many people really NEED a full or even mid sized hauler in the first place?
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Yep, here's the small pickup everyone's been screaming for!
Small-ish, anyway... still quite bloated compared to the beloved and adored Toyota Pickup of the '80s and '90s.
I suspect these will sell well to the trades, too.
I hope they sell a zillion. It's a damn good idea that's been out of the US market for way too long for very stupid reasons (Google "Area Rule" and "Chicken Tax" for the brainless details.)
I also hope they figure out how to make a 2-door long bed version; now THAT would sell like hotcakes and free beer combined.1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
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Makes me regret just buying a new F-150. Oh well, seems like there's always something better coming out nowadays!Ron
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That looks like the Explorer SportTrac on steroids and not looking too good for it. Honestly, the Ranger was forever Ford's best small truck (I bought one new from Military Sales in '91)Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace
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Originally posted by cowboyup3371 View PostThat looks like the Explorer SportTrac on steroids and not looking too good for it. Honestly, the Ranger was forever Ford's best small truck (I bought one new from Military Sales in '91)1980 Yamaha XS1100G (Current bike)
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Originally posted by Maddevill View PostMy friend had a 1970 Maverick. Didn't look anything like that. But didn't Honda try front wheel drive in
the Ridgeline ? I'm not sure that was a big seller.
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Originally posted by LAB3 View PostIf you've ever driven a small, light truck in the winter, especially without any added weight in back you'll come appreciate FWD, guaranteed.
If you truly know what you are doing rear-wheel drive and only two drive wheels will not make a huge dfiference to your getting anywhere
4WD popularity as seen today is the end result of a huge amount of money spent convincing people they needed it and it would be safer for them..
It was a huge load of BS.......BUT it has paid off in monstrously huge profits
Front-wheel drive was done the same way......endless advertising saying more safety, more traction, more safety.
.......almost entirely BS......but people bought the BS, and the vehicles......for MUCH higher prices. (read PROFITS)
The number one reason for pushing front wheel drive was to meet CAFE rules on fuel consumption: changing the drive train from rear to front lowered total vehicle weight and that alone instantly reduced gas consumption for the same engine in the same vehicle."If you scare people enough, they will demand removal of freedom. This is the path to tyranny."
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more boring looking truck. Ford could have at least taken some styling cues from things they’ve done with their F150 Raptor or looked a bit at some other makes like the newer Tacos for some design inspiration. The Maverick is uninspired IMHO. I used to own a 2002 Nissan Frontier 4x4 4 door long bed. I loved the styling of that truck, but it was lacking in power for the very poor fuel economy from which it suffered. It started to nickel and dime me about 6 years ago and I realized I really didn’t need a truck. My wife had a minivan. So I traded it for a MINI Countryman S 6 speed. It still allowed me to haul my kids and all their lacrosse gear/band instruments. I’ve never had a car that’s so much fun to drive. I have to run premium because turbo, but I still save a ton on fuel costs over the Frontier.Rich
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Originally posted by argonsagas View PostNot really.
If you truly know what you are doing rear-wheel drive and only two drive wheels will not make a huge dfiference to your getting anywhere
4WD popularity as seen today is the end result of a huge amount of money spent convincing people they needed it and it would be safer for them..
It was a huge load of BS.......BUT it has paid off in monstrously huge profits
Front-wheel drive was done the same way......endless advertising saying more safety, more traction, more safety.
.......almost entirely BS......but people bought the BS, and the vehicles......for MUCH higher prices. (read PROFITS)
The number one reason for pushing front wheel drive was to meet CAFE rules on fuel consumption: changing the drive train from rear to front lowered total vehicle weight and that alone instantly reduced gas consumption for the same engine in the same vehicle.
I had an '84 Toyota 4WD, and in the snow the difference between 2WD and 4WD was beyond astonishing. There was also a period when I had an '80 Corolla (RWD) and my girlfriend had an '84 Corolla (FWD) and again, huge difference in low traction situations. FWD is also more space efficient, has lower total weight, and allows lighter, more space efficient rear suspension layouts. Those are all positives last I checked.
As for 4WD and FWD, no, not a huge difference. But it is there and is noticeable. The wife went from an Outback to an Acura TLX, and she really misses the Outback when the roads are crappy with snow/ice. In those conditions the Outback was better than my Tacoma 4WD, the TLX is worse.'20 Ducati Multistrada 1260S, '93 Ducati 750SS, '01 SV650S, '07 DL650, '01 DR-Z400S, '80 GS1000S, '85 RZ350
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FWD is massively better in the snow than RWD. To the point where 4WD isn't needed unless you are in extreme conditions or maybe for a truck.
FWD is more efficient because the power doesn't have to go through any 90 degree bevel gears which burn up power.Ed
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Originally posted by Nessism View PostFWD is massively better in the snow than RWD. To the point where 4WD isn't needed unless you are in extreme conditions or maybe for a truck.
FWD is more efficient because the power doesn't have to go through any 90 degree bevel gears which burn up power.
After that, it has little to offer and, depending on driver skill, ithcan be detrimental..
What I learned is that, once you know what you are doing, in almost any circumstance that will be faced by an average driver, , you can go anywhere with any of them, but unless the circumstances are really, really, severe, and far out of the ordinary from what most motorists will encounter even occasionally, the difference is not significant. Driver attitude and driver skill, coupled with having the right tires for the season, will almost always get you where you want to go. People who drove in the 1930's, 1940;s, 1950's , 1960's, 1970's (before front wheel drive came into prominence)all knew this and did it regularly, in all seasons and in all weather and they did so on roads/highways that were almost nothing like what is common today.
Those who have learned that skill understand this. Those that have bought the fairy tale that they actually NEED 4 wheel drive have a mental block that prohibits understanding that there were decades when front/four wheel drive did not exist and road conditions were far worse than what you are likely to see in almost every urban situation today, and everyone went about their business all year. Many millions of drivers regularly did what so many today have been brainwashed to believe must be impossible.
To keep this in perspective, my attitude has always been I will go wherever I want to go.. whenever I want to go there.....every winter. Excepting micro bikes and trikes, which I have never been on, I have done this in/on every type of road vehicle out there. There is nothing exceptional about me as there are many thousands like me who do the same year after year.
Six inches of fresh, unbroken, snow, or even snow mixed with ice, is NOT an impassable obstacle or even something to be afraid of.
I grew up doing this. So did many, many, thousands of others.
Being able to do it is not at all special: once you learn how to drive properly it is just another day of winter weather to deal with....and maybe have fun doing it..Last edited by argonsagas; 06-09-2021, 11:48 PM."If you scare people enough, they will demand removal of freedom. This is the path to tyranny."
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Originally posted by Nessism View PostFWD is massively better in the snow than RWD. To the point where 4WD isn't needed unless you are in extreme conditions or maybe for a truck.
FWD is more efficient because the power doesn't have to go through any 90 degree bevel gears which burn up power.'84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
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