dar this has been years ago but i did shred several filters on my 2k mile 1150.
only me and my brother seen this...never mentioned it before to anyone.
so could it have been the fram filters if that's what i was using?
i used OEM and fram only.
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dar this has been years ago but i did shred several filters on my 2k mile 1150.
only me and my brother seen this...never mentioned it before to anyone.
so could it have been the fram filters if that's what i was using?
i used OEM and fram only.
i was changing the oil once a week at the time.
there are 3 tracks within an hour from me with tune and test on different days so...
plus i always ran 20-50 castrol GTX...just my thing.
well this is the 1st time sense the late 80's i thought about it.
no harm...no foul i guess.
there are 3 tracks within an hour from me with tune and test on different days so...
plus i always ran 20-50 castrol GTX...just my thing.
well this is the 1st time sense the late 80's i thought about it.
no harm...no foul i guess.
gs1197
Forum Apprentice
The filter won't blow up (at least in my case it didn't), but it can pierce a small hole through the side. It may have been fluke deal where everything lined up just right, never found out for certain. When i removed the cooler it caused a high pressure jet that blew a tidy little hole through the filter.
That's how i got educated about the 2 different covers.
Swapped the cover and problem went away.
That's how i got educated about the 2 different covers.
Swapped the cover and problem went away.
blackhammer
Forum Mentor
Makes sense, oil cooler gallery blocked off and everything going through that small hole in the 1150 cover. I will be changing the covers shortly, ive had the motor running a few times with the 1150 cover on and the ports blocked, i'll post a pic of the filter if its been damaged.
blackhammer
Forum Mentor
No visible damage to the filter when i removed it.
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CivilRock
Guest
I'm in the same boat with an 1150 motor swap and no cooler.
There's another thread here with a similar theme, and this link with a great explanation of the GS oil cooler:
http://www.theflyingbanana.com/oil-cooler.htm
It seems like there's thousands of oil coolers on ebay for sale, but very few GS1150 coolers available. I'm thinking of just buying a similar sized one from some other Suzuki and adapting it to fit. I have an assortment of parts on my bike, so keeping it authentic and matching is not critical. Any reason why I couldn't make a 95 GSX600 oil cooler do the same thing? Assuming I'd have to modify the hoses and their routing.
This one is $30 instead of $200 for a real 1150 cooler.
-Kevin
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There's another thread here with a similar theme, and this link with a great explanation of the GS oil cooler:
http://www.theflyingbanana.com/oil-cooler.htm
It seems like there's thousands of oil coolers on ebay for sale, but very few GS1150 coolers available. I'm thinking of just buying a similar sized one from some other Suzuki and adapting it to fit. I have an assortment of parts on my bike, so keeping it authentic and matching is not critical. Any reason why I couldn't make a 95 GSX600 oil cooler do the same thing? Assuming I'd have to modify the hoses and their routing.
This one is $30 instead of $200 for a real 1150 cooler.
-Kevin
I was trying to sell my nice 1150 for $150 BIN so I guess that was not really gouging.
http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=212856
not for sale anymore; I'm keeping it
Retard
Forum Newbie
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CivilRock
Guest
I did some checking and the 95 Katana banjo fittings are 16mm and the 1150 cooler ports are 14mm.
Would be killer if I could find a cooler that had lines and everything and 14mm banjo fittings.
Options:
1. re-work the oil cooler lines to 14mm. (AN adapter, hose clamps, etc.)
2. find something else with 14mm banjos.
3. tap the engine out to 16mm ports.
What do you think? Or what would you suggest? Any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kevin
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mxm64
Guest
Same question on a 1200 Bandit Cooler
Same question on a 1200 Bandit Cooler
Kevin, I have the same dilemma. I am building a 1428 big block on a 82 GS1100E and want to add a 89 Bandit 1200 Oil Cooler I have. The GSF1200 banjos are 16mm and the GS1100 oil threads are 12mm. I was thinking of drilling and tapping the case to 16mm also? Have you tried it yet or what did you end up doing? Thanks.
Same question on a 1200 Bandit Cooler
Kevin, I have the same dilemma. I am building a 1428 big block on a 82 GS1100E and want to add a 89 Bandit 1200 Oil Cooler I have. The GSF1200 banjos are 16mm and the GS1100 oil threads are 12mm. I was thinking of drilling and tapping the case to 16mm also? Have you tried it yet or what did you end up doing? Thanks.
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CivilRock
Guest
mxm64,
I thought about tapping out the ports to 16mm, but didn't end up going that way. Instead I fabricated some adapters. Check out post my thread on the whole 1150 swap starting on post 60.
http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showpost.php?p=2002766&postcount=60
Before I did the final installation, I ended up grinding the welds flat so they look better, and so that I could fit them cleanly back into my mini lathe. I had to shorten them a little because they were bottoming out in the engine ports.
There was an unforeseen added benefit as the adapters ended up giving me a little more room to get the stock Katana cooler lines lined up. BTW, I bought the oil cooler with lines for $29 shipped from eBay.
Good luck, and let me know which way you go.
-Kevin
I thought about tapping out the ports to 16mm, but didn't end up going that way. Instead I fabricated some adapters. Check out post my thread on the whole 1150 swap starting on post 60.
http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showpost.php?p=2002766&postcount=60
Before I did the final installation, I ended up grinding the welds flat so they look better, and so that I could fit them cleanly back into my mini lathe. I had to shorten them a little because they were bottoming out in the engine ports.
There was an unforeseen added benefit as the adapters ended up giving me a little more room to get the stock Katana cooler lines lined up. BTW, I bought the oil cooler with lines for $29 shipped from eBay.
Good luck, and let me know which way you go.
-Kevin
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mxm64
Guest
Very Nice Fab Kevin!
Very Nice Fab Kevin!
Very nice fab job Kevin! I have a mini-lathe too and was thinking of turning down something from scratch, but the threaded bolts and welded nuts it even better. Still, I think the there should be enough wall thickness on the case to drill out another 2mm and retap the case to 16mm? I need to check hose length/banjo fitment yet too before deciding which way to go. Thanks again for the idea.
Very Nice Fab Kevin!
Very nice fab job Kevin! I have a mini-lathe too and was thinking of turning down something from scratch, but the threaded bolts and welded nuts it even better. Still, I think the there should be enough wall thickness on the case to drill out another 2mm and retap the case to 16mm? I need to check hose length/banjo fitment yet too before deciding which way to go. Thanks again for the idea.
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CivilRock
Guest
Absolutely. I'm sure there's enough meat there. And then you'd have just a hair less restriction out the ports. Although I think the banjo bolt fittings are the most restrictive part of the circulation.
I didn't know if my efforts were going to work, I'm not an engine builder (I'm a banker) so I wanted to be able to reverse everything. That's a weak reason, but I also didn't have the whole block apart and didn't want to have to figure out how to remove all the tapping debris from inside the case. Which is another weak excuse, now that I think about it.
Anyway, they work. And the GSX600 oil cooler I have is way more than I need anyway.
-Kevin
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CivilRock
Guest
You know that you need to either use an 1150 oil cover or plug the 1100 return to the filter, right?
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mxm64
Guest
1150 Filter Cover
1150 Filter Cover
Yes, I have the 1150 filter cover and have a 1150 cooler, but want something bigger for my big block without air passages for the street. Thanks.
1150 Filter Cover
Yes, I have the 1150 filter cover and have a 1150 cooler, but want something bigger for my big block without air passages for the street. Thanks.
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CivilRock
Guest
Schnikes! You're doing a 1428 for the street? Holy hell.
I better check out your thread.
-Kevin
I better check out your thread.
-Kevin
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mxm64
Guest
Keeping her cool...
Keeping her cool...
That is the plan. I have high speed oil pump gears (GS750), top end oiler and 1200 bandit oil cooler. Hopefully that will be enough. If not, maybe I will have to take up a new hobby.... (drag racing?)
Keeping her cool...
That is the plan. I have high speed oil pump gears (GS750), top end oiler and 1200 bandit oil cooler. Hopefully that will be enough. If not, maybe I will have to take up a new hobby.... (drag racing?)
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