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1979 GS1000 Carb Identification

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Hi, everyone. I picked up what I was told was a 1979 GS1000 (not sure which model) but it starting to appear to be a frankenbike. Although the frame and engine VIN match that year the tank doesn't appear to be typical of a 1979 (it indents at the knees).

Also, the airbox didn't seem to fit so snug and wasn't running a filter. I'm not sure if it's the airbox that's not stock or the carbs.

Attached below are pics of the carbs. They read "Mikuni Kogyo" and on the other side "Made in Japan" & "MIC".

The intake inside diameter measured 39.67mm and inside diameter on the other side was 29.58.

Jet size reads 122.5, which from all my research thus far is not stock.

Any help in identifying these would be greatly appreciated.

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I should also mention that I can't find anywhere to attach the choke cable which is also suspect of non-stock carbs.....
 
Those are aftermarket VM29 "smoothbore" carbs. Cleaned up they sell for $600+ on ebay. Nice score.
 
Ed is correct. Clean em, sell em. Use the money to buy yourself a nice stock NOS tank or something. Those carbs are bloody useless to you unless you're planning on hopping that thing up pretty good.

Your tank is off an 80-81 1100E/80-82 750E. Looks pretty ok too, Id sell it as well and buy the bits you need to put your 1000 back to stock. .
 
That is indeed a frankenbike

It appears to be a 79 E model with

29 mm smoothbores

78 tail piece

80's 750 or 1100 tank

I don't know why anyone would put smoothbores on with a stock exhaust.

You're correct, the jetting is way too big. Stock is 95, maybe go to a 102.5 tops.

They'll fit the airbox better if you get proper sized hose clamps, like on the intake side
 
holy crap. I wasn't expecting this at all.

You guys seem to know your stuff, so let's entertain the idea of "hopping it up"? What would that entail?

A. Better exhaust?

B. Better ignition. It's got an Accel "super coil" ignition system

C. Better suspension?
 
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The standard "hopping up" procedure includes a (Vance and Hines) 4-n-1 exhaust, (K&N) pod filters, and possibly a Stage 3 Dynojet kit or other jet modifications to account for the increased air flow. You might consider a Dynatek electronic ignition upgrade. You'll find suspension upgrade information in your "mega-welcome". But actually I just want to share some GS lovin'. :)


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jyck, that bike looks sharp as it is!
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Big T is correct in it being jetted rich.
With a 4-into-1 exhaust and pod air filters, try something closer to 100 for jetting.

Daniel
 
If someone paid the big bucks for those carbs, they may have built up the engine too. Possible you might have a real rocket with a bigger bore, higher compression, maybe a lot more. Seems odd to stay with the stock air box and 4-2 pipes in that case, but POs have been known to do some pretty stupid things. Find out what you have in there.
 
Standard jetting doesn't apply those are 29mm smooth bores, not stock 26mm. With a pipe and pods it may well be close on jetting.. If you look there is a lever on the left side carb!! that is the choke
 
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tkent02 said:
If someone paid the big bucks for those carbs, they may have built up the engine too. Possible you might have a real rocket with a bigger bore, higher compression, maybe a lot more. Seems odd to stay with the stock air box and 4-2 pipes in that case, but POs have been known to do some pretty stupid things. Find out what you have in there.
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What should I be looking for specifically?

Also, it looks like there are two models of Vance & Hines 4 to 1 exhausts. A no baffle drag race and megaphone.

With the 122.5 jet size, would the drag race model be more appropriate?
 
jyck said:
What should I be looking for specifically?
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Start with a compression check, then look at the cams while you have the valve cover off to do the valve adjustment. Look at the top of the pistons through the spark plug holes.

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With the 122.5 jet size, would the drag race model be more appropriate?
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Only if you watch too much NASCAR, and no longer have any desire to turn right. The drag pipe drags terribly in the right turns.
 
Plus, you don't change your pipe to match your jets, you change the jets to match the pipe (and cams, pistons, etc).

I bought two different GS1000 with unbeknownst to me, built engines. There is a pretty fair chance your engine has a big bore kit and hot rod cams as Tom suggests. A visual inspection will tell the tale regarding the cams, but the pistons are harder to tell. I'd do as Tom suggests and look in though the spark plug hole and try to compare the shape of the piston dome with stock. If you do a search on ebay for "GS1000 pistons" or something to this effect you should be able to find some photos that will help with the ID.

Good luck
 
Nessism said:
Those are aftermarket VM29 "smoothbore" carbs. Cleaned up they sell for $600+ on ebay. Nice score.
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yeah, nice find. Dont feel bad mine is a frankenbike also
combination of 79,82,84 G and GL parts:D
 
29mm smoothbore.Has the others said, if the motor dosent have gofast parts in it you can have a good price for these carbs.
marc
 
Sorry, guys. I think they're stock pistons. It was pretty cruddy in there but I could make out a dome shape with a flat side and an arrow. Much like this one:

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I haven't checked compression yet, but I don't have high hopes. Your advice has been awesome so far. My question now is what I should do?

Should I sell the carbs/mismatched pieces and get some stock ones?

Should I buy the front and back end off of the 1989 GSXR 1100 for $500 on CL and make it into a streetfighter? Twin or Monoshock?

Should I just reinstall the carbs, get the right jets and ride as is?

OR

Just part the whole thing and get something that is already ready to ride?

Again, I appreciate all your input.
 
Hi,
if youre handy, keep the bike , sell the carb to take the 1100 gsxr rolling gear and a set of stock carb with pods.If you lucky you will end with some money left.
my 1000 is modded and it will have a bigbore motor in it next year.
There are no cure for this:D.
My plan was to monoshocked the 1000, but i really like the look of the 5.5 rim with the twin shocks.
marc
 
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