Not uncommon, but probably not right. It is probably a bit lean on the pilot circuits. How does it start from cold with no choke in say 80 degree weather?
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Not uncommon, but probably not right. It is probably a bit lean on the pilot circuits. How does it start from cold with no choke in say 80 degree weather?
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MLow
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I have a manometer setup. I just have no idea where to hook it up :S. The one side being cooler than the other is what has me thinking it's a sync issue.
Do I like, have to get some fittings or something to hook it up? I don't understand.
Do I like, have to get some fittings or something to hook it up? I don't understand.
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MLow
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Wont know for a while I don't think. It's around 70 right now, and it will only get colder I thinks.... I can go try to start it right now without choke. But like I said I doubt we will see 80 degrees for a few months.
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You will need a pair of nipples to hook the manometer up, they need to be M5 threaded.
Look just in front of the intake boots where they bolt into the head and you will see a Phillips head screw each side with a little gasket under it. They're the ports you need to use for the manometer.
Look just in front of the intake boots where they bolt into the head and you will see a Phillips head screw each side with a little gasket under it. They're the ports you need to use for the manometer.
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MLow
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Gotcha, well. The list of things to buy keeps getting bigger... For now I think it's certainly ride-able. However at high speeds the little wobbles from time to time in the bars is concerning. I think I'm just used to full fairing goodness
.My stop in 50ft or so going 40 tested the brakes pretty good I think but upgrades are certainly high on the list. And this isn't going to be my daily ride I don't think. So I can afford to wait for parts and just not ride as much. All in all I'm a grand down, but I think I'm ahead of the curve for what it's worth. Which is nice place to be.
As things get colder there will be a point for a month or so I can't muscle through the cold. However silly that sounds. Riding on the highway to work and back in 40 degrees each day wears on me and I have to give up at some point. The tires will get broken in before winter steals my ride time away I hope at least.
The money flow right now does not allow me to do these things right now, so I enjoyed it while it lasted but maybe in a few weeks I'll ramp back up to upgrades and then a few more weeks of riding then it will be too cold heh.
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It starts right up in warmer temperatures. Just when it's colder does it require choked warm-ups.
For the manometer nipples. I used a couple Allen head bolts from the hardware store, drilled out the centers and then used JB Weld to secure and seal some brass tubing into the head of the bolt. This allows you to attach a piece of nylon hose as my set-up requires.
(It's much easier to drill through the centerline of a bolt than you may think)
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that's not good. My 400's don't do this.They're not big bikes and I can feel cold air pockets when I ride the hwy !, but there's no regular shake on accelerating so I have to go the "yada yada read-the-manual " rant.....I'd check the wheel alignment first and if it's not easily fixable at the chain adjustment, I'd have a close look at the parts to be sure you haven't left anything off. Include the shocks too-the spacing, the washers.If you are missing the seat rail, replace it with a thick washer or two to match the parts diagram.
And while you've got the rear wheel off the ground, give the swing-arm a hard shake. Head set too.
Preload on shocks is none on my bike with the stock weight of atf+motor oil in the forks. These are really not particularly "special" bike and I think the back is just stiffened when the seat has more weight than the usual solo rider they were built for. Stiffening em just hurts your back more, without the load...If you get into handling mods, you have to think of back AND front.
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MLow
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I'm fairly certain they are aligned well. I will certainly look into it. I did not mess with anything in the forks. Maybe I should have? Since it was so subtle I had not gave it much thought since I am used to my ninja and it being so rock solid. And I chalked it up to a modern bike being more solid.
I should maybe say I'm talking about 20mph winds, and highway speeds. So I'm not saying it just wobbles away at road speeds, with light wind. It's rare we get that high of wind, and when we do my ninja is pretty solid still, but gets pushes around. I've only ridden a few "naked" bikes. And the ones I have ridden felt a little wobbly in the wind.
Anyways, take what you will of that info.
At 70 degrees the bike would start but not run, way too low of idle. I had to give it very very slight gas to keep from stalling. But sounded like after a min or two it would warm up and stay idling. I just tried once though and when I left the gas off it stalled. That is with no choke. With choke it starts right up and after a minute or less I could take choke off.
I should maybe say I'm talking about 20mph winds, and highway speeds. So I'm not saying it just wobbles away at road speeds, with light wind. It's rare we get that high of wind, and when we do my ninja is pretty solid still, but gets pushes around. I've only ridden a few "naked" bikes. And the ones I have ridden felt a little wobbly in the wind.
Anyways, take what you will of that info.
At 70 degrees the bike would start but not run, way too low of idle. I had to give it very very slight gas to keep from stalling. But sounded like after a min or two it would warm up and stay idling. I just tried once though and when I left the gas off it stalled. That is with no choke. With choke it starts right up and after a minute or less I could take choke off.
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MLow
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I have a question.
I've done some research and have come up empty. Short of buying a micrometer and measuring of course...Though I want to do that...
What's the banjo sizes and length of the front brake like? And does anyone know where I could get a rebuild kit, and or if I should just go with a replacement from perhaps a different bike. I have noticed in some heavy riding the brake wasn't up to snuff. So I parked it in the garage till I can get this sorted.
One last tidbit. I was going about trying to do the adjustment screw for the carb sync and the darn thing was so rusted it fell apart.
I've done some research and have come up empty. Short of buying a micrometer and measuring of course...Though I want to do that...
What's the banjo sizes and length of the front brake like? And does anyone know where I could get a rebuild kit, and or if I should just go with a replacement from perhaps a different bike. I have noticed in some heavy riding the brake wasn't up to snuff. So I parked it in the garage till I can get this sorted.
One last tidbit. I was going about trying to do the adjustment screw for the carb sync and the darn thing was so rusted it fell apart.
standby, I'll measure my 1981 400E's brakeline length-is the same bike to look at-just valves and the carb choke are different......the banjo fitting is pretty standard..is it 10mm rings a bell?,well I'll measure.
10mm (I didn't zero the calipers..)
This is the reservoir end and note the slight bend in it...
The length on the 400E bike is about 36 inches. Hard to measure with a carpenter's tape. The handlebars have very liitle rise but this hose also suits where rise is 2 inches or so.
bars now
This extra one I have is 38 1/2 off an old '82 400T with bars that have plenty of rise 4 inches at a guess.
I'd try making a new brakeline. bwringer did a nice write-up for DIY. I think it's on Bass-cliff's site.
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MLow
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You are freaking awesome dude!
Made my day. 10mm both ends, like a 22.5 angle on one. 36-38 1/2" long. Should be a snap to get one now. For the length I can just measure mine with tape.
I need to buy a caliper like that haha I can think of so many uses.
Made my day. 10mm both ends, like a 22.5 angle on one. 36-38 1/2" long. Should be a snap to get one now. For the length I can just measure mine with tape.
I need to buy a caliper like that haha I can think of so many uses.
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MLow
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Hey guys, I have bad news and good news.
First the good I guess. Cleaned the disc and pads, grips a LOT better. Will lock and skid from me pushing and grabbing front brake. Feels a MILLION times better on the road, maybe the brake was dragging?(thats my guess) Wiggle gone.
The bad news. I drove it to work, parked in the lot and a guy drove up to me. Hopped out his car and.... Offered me a ton of cash for the bike. So I took it.... I happened to carry all my forms in my pack. So it was like a 5 minute deal, he gave me cash, I let him test, he asked for the forms and had his partner drive the car home I guess, and he took off on the bike. I made sure to tell him everything about the bike I could, where it needed work done, parts that need replacing etc. We settled at a little lower than his first offer, but still crazy compared to my price of parts/bike.
Uh so I guess this saga ends here. Thanks to all of you so much. You guys were instrumental to getting this thing running right. I learned a good bit too for myself lol.
Hope you all ride safe. I'll still lurk around and I will try to find another gs on craigslist to play with soon.
First the good I guess. Cleaned the disc and pads, grips a LOT better. Will lock and skid from me pushing and grabbing front brake. Feels a MILLION times better on the road, maybe the brake was dragging?(thats my guess) Wiggle gone.
The bad news. I drove it to work, parked in the lot and a guy drove up to me. Hopped out his car and.... Offered me a ton of cash for the bike. So I took it.... I happened to carry all my forms in my pack. So it was like a 5 minute deal, he gave me cash, I let him test, he asked for the forms and had his partner drive the car home I guess, and he took off on the bike. I made sure to tell him everything about the bike I could, where it needed work done, parts that need replacing etc. We settled at a little lower than his first offer, but still crazy compared to my price of parts/bike.
Uh so I guess this saga ends here. Thanks to all of you so much. You guys were instrumental to getting this thing running right. I learned a good bit too for myself lol.
Hope you all ride safe. I'll still lurk around and I will try to find another gs on craigslist to play with soon.
a "ton of cash"? and that's the Bad news? If a tasty big fish leapt from the water and fell at my feet, I'd find it hard to toss it back too!
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Good news on the brakes... and the sale! As long as that's what you wanted of course 
I'd be hard pressed to sell my 450 for anything less than a hell of a lot more than it's worth... I'm a little too attached to it I feel but it is also a great fun bike...
Glad we could help you get where you got though!
I'd be hard pressed to sell my 450 for anything less than a hell of a lot more than it's worth... I'm a little too attached to it I feel but it is also a great fun bike...
Glad we could help you get where you got though!
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MLow
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Yeah it was really kinda spontaneous. I miss her already but he seemed very happy to have found one, from what he was saying he was looking for a bike like this for quite some time.
