1982 GS550L Ignitor & Signal Generator test?

[teddux]

New question here unrelated to the argument.

I am quite handy with the discrete transistor and resistor and have access to a large quantity of the items listed in the $20 bill of material. Is there some business opportunity here where I could make a simple circuit board and maybe sell 20 or 30 of them? What circuit are you talking about, and is there a schematic available.

Finally, someone who is serious.
I think I have made up my mind on giving it away here for free, thanks to the dead-beaters..
If anyone is interested in doing this for yourself, pm.

 

[car99r]

OK, well I hope everyone can skip all the BS on this thread and finsih giving me a hand here.

I installed the new Dyna Ignition and Dyan coils. Followed all instructions and everything seems good but I do have a couple questions as I am getting alot of sputtering but bike still not start. I think my carbs need some cleaning but want to make sure I have timing right and coils working properly before tearing the carbs out.

I am trying to follow these timing instructions from BassCliff's site.

Setting ignition​

When wired, the ignition must be set. This can be done either statically with at test-lamp, or dynamically with an ignition gun.

First I did it statically.

Connect the test-lamp from the white wire to ground. (I had to make a test-wire ? the coil should be attached as well).

Turn the engine clockwise until the rightmost mark (full advance) for 1-4 is at mark.

Turn the advancer fully by hand.

You would expect the light to go on, exactly when the advancer is fully turned.

If not loosen the base plate and turn is slightly in the elongated holes.​

If you are suspicious, check the black wire for 2-3 as well.

My questions,

I used my light tester and my white wire is hot all the time when key is on no matter where the motor is at??? I noticed when turning the motor the light would get brighter but even when I pulled the plug wire and grounded the plug it was firing all the time just better sometimes. Is this normal?

Also on the timing instructions above. I line the (1-4) mark up and then it says to turn the advnacer fully by hand. Not sure exactly what I am doing here? One full rotation?

Please help....lol

 

[car99r]

Also I noticed while hooking everything up. I have these two wires still hanging out? One is w/g and the other is w/r... Any idea where they are supposed to go? When I installed the regulator from Duaneage, I used the 3 wires coming from stator which were w/bl, y, w/o.

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[BassCliff]

Hi,

Those wires loop up to the (non-existent on my bike) headlight switch. The original design would cut out one leg of the stator if the headlight was turned off in order to keep the stator from burning up. Just tuck them in somewhere and leave them alone. They were left over in the wiring harness even though the later models had not headlight switch (headlight on all the time). You don't need the extra resistance in the circuit. I think I cover this in the Regulator/Rectifier Replacement guide on my website.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[car99r]

Hi,

Those wires loop up to the (non-existent on my bike) headlight switch. The original design would cut out one leg of the stator if the headlight was turned off in order to keep the stator from burning up. Just tuck them in somewhere and leave them alone. They were left over in the wiring harness even though the later models had not headlight switch (headlight on all the time). You don't need the extra resistance in the circuit. I think I cover this in the Regulator/Rectifier Replacement guide on my website.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Thanks!

Any thoughts on why I would be getting constant spark to all of the plugs? The spark is very mild until it gets to proper timing point then it lights up real good but I wouldn't think i should be getting anything until the timing point...

 

[TheCafeKid]

Thanks!

Any thoughts on why I would be getting constant spark to all of the plugs? The spark is very mild until it gets to proper timing point then it lights up real good but I wouldn't think i should be getting anything until the timing point...

Well, the coils are SUPPOSED to fire both plugs on each coil at the same time. When the timing hits on the F/1-4 mark, the coil fires plugs one and four. But, only ONE of the cylinders will be in the Firing stroke (compression stroke) the other will be in the exhaust stroke, so the spark is sort of wasted (it actually helps burn off any left over exhaust gasses) Same happens with the 2-3 coil. Why you'd have spark on all four plugs ALL of the time sounds pretty odd. Did you mess with your timing plate at all? And did you test your ignitor? (sorry i didnt read the whole thread because i simply refuse to wade through certain posters BS..)

 

[car99r]

Well, the coils are SUPPOSED to fire both plugs on each coil at the same time. When the timing hits on the F/1-4 mark, the coil fires plugs one and four. But, only ONE of the cylinders will be in the Firing stroke (compression stroke) the other will be in the exhaust stroke, so the spark is sort of wasted (it actually helps burn off any left over exhaust gasses) Same happens with the 2-3 coil. Why you'd have spark on all four plugs ALL of the time sounds pretty odd. Did you mess with your timing plate at all? And did you test your ignitor? (sorry i didnt read the whole thread because i simply refuse to wade through certain posters BS..)

I apologize for the BS above.

The spark is there no matter where the timing is. However, it is faint but noticeable. I realize 1&4 fire together and 2&3 fire together. Not sure why i woudl have spark on #1&4 while 2&3 are firing?

I have just installed a Dyna S igntion and Dyna coils. I double checked wiring and all seems good.

 

[car99r]

Ignition wires are black wire to #2 coil black wire. White wire to #1 coil white wire. Red wire to both o/w wires on both coils fed with power from original o/w white from harness.

Removed the ignitor all together.

 

[TheCafeKid]

Ignition wires are black wire to #2 coil black wire. White wire to #1 coil white wire. Red wire to both o/w wires on both coils fed with power from original o/w white from harness.

Removed the ignitor all together.

Id read your Dyna instructions again... I have one, but i didnt install it, and the person who did had problems when installing it too.. I am not that familiar with the Dyna, but I have read that there are sometimes some problems with them.. You can also call (as the person who installed mine did after fighting with it) Dynatek and talk to a tech there..

 

[car99r]

Id read your Dyna instructions again... I have one, but i didnt install it, and the person who did had problems when installing it too.. I am not that familiar with the Dyna, but I have read that there are sometimes some problems with them.. You can also call (as the person who installed mine did after fighting with it) Dynatek and talk to a tech there..

Do you know what problems he had or what he did to remedy?

Anyone know if the green coils from Dyna need to be grounded to the frame or anything different than stock coils?

I have double checked and triple checked the wiring and all seems ok...

 

[SAN]

82 550l

82 550l

I have the same bike.
(project) are all your grounds connected together? is key switch in good condition.also have a 81 550T w /dyna S worked great till i cooked one side. I think. bad ground rectifire & ridding w/light sw/off. but have dyna III for backup.bought on here 40 bucks. good luck w/problem.