1982 GS750T - R/R Connector Help Required...

[SamLack99]

Hello there,

I've finished off Suzy's back end for now:

New rear tire, chain, sprockets, fixings, rust removal, repaint, and so on.

Now, it's time to reconnect the engine to the various electrical wires and cables I disconnected it from to remove it from the frame.

Anyway...

...It's time to fix my 'solution' for not being able to disconnect the three yellow wires from the R/R. Cutting them seemed like a good idea at the time.



I'm double stuck.

1. I don't know how to get the cables out of the connector without cutting them
2. I don't know what type of replacement connector I need to get.

The usual SH775 R/R has two connectors and replacement kits are easy enough to find.

Mine is a SH555-12 and I can't find 6-pin replacement connectors for this R/R.

Can anyone help?​

 

[SamLack99]

I had a look on the Rectifier/Regulator replacement list post.

And the SH555-12 is listed in black as Kawasaki GVZ 600R Shindengen SH555-12 6.12

12amps with 6 pins I'm guessing.

Though I've never heard of a Kawasaki GVZ (GPZ?)



Does anyone know if this R/R is going to last?

Or should I bite the bullet now and search for a reasonably priced SH775?

Thanks.​

 

[dgates1]

I just purchased an SH775 from eBay from a 2020 Sea-Doo that is absolutely flawless. Haven't wired it up yet, so crossing my fingers that it works. Got it for $40 with free shipping. Search for "710001103"

 

[dgates1]

Filter for "used" to find a real one.

 

[Rich82GS750TZ]

You got a good deal. They've been going up.

For wiring up the stator to the SH775 you should use something like this Triumph connector.
https://www.adeptpowersports.com/oe...MI0sSuyqnx-QIVhdezCh3TCgtaEAQYASABEgL1ovD_BwE
Cut off these ends. Put good new bullet or spade connectors to three Stator wires and the positive red (brown on the Triumph harness), and new lug for the Black Negative and attach to good ground or direct to battery neg (-).

Follow this diagram from Nessism:

If you want to see how I mounted and wired mine click the Charging system sorted link in my signature.

 

[SamLack99]

So the SH555-12 is not good?

Looking on eBay for a SH775 (Used) cost is ?187!

I was reading the Stator Papers P02 and the author mentions his Electrex R/R.

A quick Google search reveals Electrex is in the UK and --> This <-- for ?80 should fit my 1982 GS750T

Has anyone used an Electrex R/R?

 

[Rich82GS750TZ]

Sorry, Sam. No experience with the SH555-12. It couldn't tell you if it's good or not, or even if it's a Shunt or Series type, SH775 is definitely a Series type and that is mostly the reason why it's better than the original Shunt type. You'd have to dig deeper into the knowledgebase for a more in-depth explanation. I'm not an electrical engineer. As for the Stator Papers, I could be wrong, but believe they were written before the SH775 became a popular, nearly bullet-proof, replacement for stock.

 

[dgates1]

The link for the one you posted is “New”

Found this one in the UK used - looks to be in good shape.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15645656...ueBAimrQom&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

[Redman]

Hello there,

I've finished off Suzy's back end for now:

New rear tire, chain, sprockets, fixings, rust removal, repaint, and so on.

Now, it's time to reconnect the engine to the various electrical wires and cables I disconnected it from to remove it from the frame.

Anyway...

...It's time to fix my 'solution' for not being able to disconnect the three yellow wires from the R/R. Cutting them seemed like a good idea at the time.



I'm double stuck.

1. I don't know how to get the cables out of the connector without cutting them
2. I don't know what type of replacement connector I need to get.

The usual SH775 R/R has two connectors and replacement kits are easy enough to find.

Mine is a SH555-12 and I can't find 6-pin replacement connectors for this R/R.

Can anyone help?​

Is your photo missing some wiring & connectors...?

THe suzuki GS stators that I know have a single bullet connector on each of the three wires, that each connect to bullet connectors on three individual wires.....
(maybe the Ts are different than thaat...)

 

[Rich82GS750TZ]

Hard to say. The three yellow stator wires are definitely not original, so there’s a newer stator on the bike. That also means the connector block the three cut yellows went into can’t have been originally wired like pictured. It’s possible that is an original block that was depinned and repinned with three new yellows. Not sure. Depinning is easy once you figure one out. The bottom of the spade connector has a tongue that has to be pushed up, then the terminal can be pulled back out of the block. you can see the tongue in this pic. Dedicated depinning tools can be bought, but a very small flat screwdriver will work. I fashioned one by flattening a paper clip.

if there’s a way to do something, someone has likely made a YouTube video. I believe this is the video I watched when I was trying to figure out the same thing. It shows you exactly how to depin this type of connector. This would have good for you to know before you started cutting

OP should study the original wiring diagram.

 

[SamLack99]

The link for the one you posted is “New”

Found this one in the UK used - looks to be in good shape.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15645656...ueBAimrQom&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Thanks for finding that David.

I just bought it now =)

 

[SamLack99]

Hard to say. The three yellow stator wires are definitely not original, so there’s a newer stator on the bike. That also means the connector block the three cut yellows went into can’t have been originally wired like pictured. It’s possible that is an original block that was depinned and repinned with three new yellows. Not sure. Depinning is easy once you figure one out. The bottom of the spade connector has a tongue that has to be pushed up, then the terminal can be pulled back out of the block. you can see the tongue in this pic. Dedicated depinning tools can be bought, but a very small flat screwdriver will work. I fashioned one by flattening a paper clip.

As the saying goes... A picture paints a 1000 words. Thank you Rich, as always, you're a great resource.

if there’s a way to do something, someone has likely made a YouTube video. I believe this is the video I watched when I was trying to figure out the same thing. It shows you exactly how to depin this type of connector. This would have good for you to know before you started cutting

There's lots of things I should've known before doing them LOL.

OP should study the original wiring diagram.

I've studied it. Many times. All those lines crossing over each other and symbols I don't know the meaning off hurt my head.

Does anyone know of a good online motorcycle electrics course?

I would like to understand this subject better.

Thanks everyone.

Time to go to work.

 

[pdqford]

I've studied it. Many times. All those lines crossing over each other and symbols I don't know the meaning off hurt my head.

Try This (although it is not your exact model) from BikeCliff's website:

https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac/~cliff/storage/gs/GS750_schematic_color.pdf

The color lines are much easier to follow, plus you can expand it so it's not sow crowded.

 

[Rich82GS750TZ]

Thanks Jim, I was looking for the same one I had saved on my work computer to share with Sam. The only minor difference (sure there are more), is that the T does not have a separate license plate light as shown on the color diagram. Everything else should be very close, if not exactly the same.

 

[Zooks]

Thanks for finding that David.

I just bought it now =)

I bought from that seller too. All arrived and fitted ok. I used this cheap as chips copy of the triumph connectors which fitted fine
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BZN38W28?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

 

[Rich82GS750TZ]

The Amazon one will do the job, provided you do the crimps well. But for ease of having to make fewer crimps and the quality of the Triumph parts being better, being so close in price, the Triumph connector is just better.

 

[SamLack99]

Well, this just arrived...



All I can say for sure is the SH775 is considerably larger than the SH555, gonna be fun fitting it in. Though I know there are threads on this marvelous forum sharing how others have worked around this.

Thanks everyone for your help and support =)

 

[Rich82GS750TZ]

I detail how I fitted the chunky SH775 on my T in my Charging System sorted thread linked in my signature. Does your T still have the Tool Kit bracket under the left side panel?
If you can't see signatures. Go to your user profile, Edit Settings, Account tab and make sure these things are checked. And you also have to be looking at the forum as POSTS, and not LATEST ACTIVITY. Sigs don't show up when viewed in LATEST ACTIVITY. It's also highly recommended that you create your own signature.

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[SamLack99]

Hi Rich,

I've read your Charging System Sorted Thread several times and pick up something new each time =)

And I don't have the toolkit bracket under the left side panel =(

 

[SamLack99]

Sorry.

I'm looking at the wires I've got and trying to work out how they wire up to the SH775.

I'm using the SH775 Install graphic as my guide.

I've filtered through the last 10 pages of this section looking for an answer to my question, and I'm clearly too inexperienced to work it out.

So, thanks for bearing with me.

Please see the photograph below (of my old R/R and current wire set up)...

...Explanations of Wire One, Wire Two, Wire Three, Wire Four, and Wire Five will follow along with my questions.
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• Wire Three - These three yellow wires come directly from the stator. I will wire them into a suitable connector and insert that connector into the grey plug on the R/R. As instructed in the SH775 Install graphic.
• Wire Four - I think this is the earth wire (?) connected to the frame. I will get a suitable connector to fit into the black plug on the R/R, and insert one end of this wire into the negative hole. The other end I will attach directly to the negative battery terminal.
• Wire One - This wire comes directly from the main harness and fits into a hole in the white connector.
• Wire Two - This wire comes from the fuse box and fits into a separate hole in the white connector, the photo makes it look like it goes into the same hole as wire One, but it doesn't.

I'm confident I know what to do with the wires labeled Three once I've got the right connector, just fit it directly into the R/R.

Can someone please confirm that I'm correct about Wire Four?

I'm struggling with what to do with Wire One and Wire Two. Do I just wire them both into the positive hole on the connector and then plug it into the R/R?

The SH775 Installation diagram shows a 'Factory Bullet Plug' and the positive cable connecting to the positive tongue in the R/R.

Should I connect my positive cable One and positive cable Two into this Factory Bullet Plug and then the single wire from the Factory Bullet Plug into the R/R? And if so... Can anyone show me a picture of what it is I'm shopping for?

And if I've got it all upside down and inside out, let me know.

Sorry again guys.

I've been staring at all of this too long and it's getting tangled up in my head.

Thanks again for your help and your patience.​