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1984 gs550es sarts cold, runs well, then won't start

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got it! Ended up being valves too tight. Talk about dumb, just reinforces checking the basics first. Thanks to all who helped.
 
well, I didn't get it. my daughter rode it a few miles, shut it off and it wouldn't restart. Waited a few hours and started and ran great. Let it cool and rechecked the valve clearance. All were good, so I increased them to .008". We rode today for a few miles and shut it off at home. Won't start. any other ideas?
 
Let it cool and rechecked the valve clearance. All were good, so I increased them to .008".

If you went to .008", you went too far. Did you increase them to .08mm, or .008 inches? Your post states .008" (inches). Max clearance is .13mm or .005 inches. Minimum clearance is .08mm or .003 inches.
 
I was trying to see if the valves were too tight and tried .008" (inches) to eliminate them as a hot start culprit. I did test the pulse coils at the ignitor, they were at 420 ohms resistance hot, which is in spec. I do have spark as well. It tries to catch and feels the same as when the valves were too tight. I did set the fuel screws at 3 turns out and no change. It did idle better at 1.5 turns, but afraid its not enough fuel at that setting.
 
so, went for a ride today. Bike died a few miles from home. Got it home and checked her over. I have spark, but plugs are dryer than I'd like to see. it seems like i'm not getting enough fuel. I hooked an auxiliary tank feeding the carbs to get it to start, but no go. I'm currently pulling the carbs to triple check it over. What am I missing?
 
Try riding it with the petcock in the prime position to rule out a vacuum problem with the fuel tap. My 1100 would die at random times. Found out the connections at the ignitor had slacked off enough to become intermittent. I cleaned and crimped them and the problem went away. Drain the tank and pull the petcock to see if the filter is plugged up. It might pass enough gas to fill the bowls after it sits awhile, but does not pass enough to keep up with a running motor. You might try running it for awhile with the gas cap off and a low fuel level to see if it is a tank venting issue.
 
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Great advice. I had my daughter ride for a few miles with the petcock on prime this evening, but same result. I will look into the bad connection possibility on the ignitor. i stripped the carbs and am soaking them in the solution we use at the shop and ordered new jets and intake orings as mine were hard and flat. thanks for the reply
 
carbs stripped, soaked in industrial cleaner, new orings and new jets, new intake boot orings and carbs tight. Same issue. tried to run it today and had same issue. I'm at a loss. Everything seems to check out. I think I'm going to send it down the road unless I can figure this out soon.
 
The progression of the symptoms as described just screams an ignitor problem. Know anyone near you with a good running 550 to swap around to see if the problem goes with the ignitor?
 
Big D, I was starting to think the same, but didn't know what the symptoms were and didn't want to throw parts at it. Unfortunately I don't know anyone with a 550, but I'm willing to buy an ignitor. I know ebay isn't the greatest and used parts are iffy, but the ignitor is over $500 through partzilla. Anyway, thank you for responding and I will post my results when I get them.
 
You did do the stator papers tests right? This may be an intermittent charging issue caused by a marginal system coupled with bad ground. Cheaper and easier than buying an igniter.

A bad igniter should not be able to run a bike for any significant period of time
the time it did run for your daughter is likely what a bike can run on a full charge before depleting its battery.

just to repeat what I said the fsm specs on the igniter do not seem to match what a real world known good ignoiter displays. I have three of em and they also vary not only from the fsm but slightly from one another.
 
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Hey Cipher. I read the stator papers and did the tests. The charging system was at about 14+ volts (don't remenber now..getting old, but was charging ). It will turn over quickly even when hot, so I'm assuming the battery is ok? At rest it has about 12.6 Volts. I did order a sh775 voltage regulator for (I work at a Polaris dealer) I looked at the ground strap, but didn't remove it or clean it. It was tight. Could this be the problem? She can run the bike for about 20 minutes, but then it starts to falter a little and won't idle well. If she stalls it, we have to trailer it home. We have another bike for her now, so I have time to work on it as I have time, not so stressed to get it running. Thanks for all the input.
 
Started from the beginning today. Left fuel valve on prime Tested electrical system cold and hot after it won't start. Pulse coils, stator and coils were all well within specs. I did install a sh775 regulator as well. It was charging at about 14-14.45 VDC. Another member has offered to test my ignitor on his 550, so we'll see what the outcome is. Again, thanks to all that are helping. I hope I can repay the kindness someday. Chris
 
Did you ever find the solution? I?m have a similar issue with the bike not starting hot
 
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