1984 Katana 7/11

[Guest]

Hmmmm I might have to give that a shot Larry, I was just going with the stock-ish idea of a little gap between the black and the pinstripe. I have 10 metres on that roll so there's plenty to give it a try and move it if I don't like it.

I also found a more glossy red on eBay today so if the satin doesn't look quite right I'll grab a roll and try that instead. Doesn't look to be any different quality to the one I got and similar price etc. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6mm-x-9...560247&hash=item33cfa2ff16:g:K6MAAOSwaEhZKsR4

I got the front mudguard re-sprayed today, not going to touch it again now until I'm ready to cut and polish it on Monday.

Funnily enough I finally figured out how the fluid control on my gun works... I actually got to do some dry coats for a change! Despite the fluid control knob being 30mm long or so, all the control is in about the last 5mm... cheap guns are cheap for a reason!

I got 3 coats of primer on, then 3 dry-ish coats of silver, then 3 dry coats of clear and 3 wet coats. There was a good couple of hours between the silver and clear too while I went out for a bit.

Anyway, looked good when I finished, I'll check the level of orange peel tomorrow.

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I think the side cover switches and filler panels are about as good as they're gonna get now too.

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I also finished up the stator area repair, pretty sure I've built it all up enough and now just need to file and sand it back to the right shape. Definitely much improved over the dodgy repair that was there.

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Pretty sure I've found someone to sort out my crankshaft too which will be fantastic, hopefully taking it down to him in the morning.

 

[nvr2old]

The fender looks great, Pete. A perfect repair. I had to laugh about the fluid control knob..it does indeed make a huge difference where it's set at. I always tell people to start at the half way point, and then it usually needs to be turned out a bit more to be the right viscosity. Turn it in for the paint to be a bit drier, turn it out to get more material and to flow out better..which you have seemed to hit just right with the clear. It should sand and polish really well. Nicely done. You have snatched the pebble from my hand, Grasshopper...

 

[Guest]

Cheers Larry, although I'll wait 'til I see it out in the sun before getting too excited

For the entire two paint jobs now I've just figured the fluid control knob did bugger all as it didn't seem to matter where I put it, it didn't seem to make a difference...

Oh well, I know better now!

 

[Guest]

I took my crankshaft for a drive yesterday, should know next week at some point what the options are to get it sorted. He said he likely has a better taper end around that he can replace the existing one with which will solve the thread issues nicely as well.

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I decided I wasn't happy with how the side panel switches and filler panels ended up, and I discovered my aerosol plastic paint still seemed ok.

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Gave them a quick rub back to get most of the scratches and marks out.

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Four coats later they're a bit more presentable.

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I have a white paint pen to redo the triangles too, they should be fully cured this afternoon.

 

[Guest]

Okey doke need some clarification here Larry! Or Daryl if you know too

Grabbed the new polishing pads today so I'm all set to get back into it tomorrow, however I'm a little confused as to which to use for what... I have four pads and three products plus the wax which isn't going on now and that'll be applied by hand anyway.

They say:

White wool - cutting
Yellow wool - polishing
Orange foam - cutting
Black foam - polishing

I have the Ultimate Compound which I was using for the initial cut, then a fine cut cleaner, and then the glaze to polish.

I'm assuming I can do Ultimate on the white wool, then skip straight to the orange foam for the fine cut, then the black foam for the glaze.

Does that sound right? I'm sure there's a fourth compound I could use but that's all I have, and going by the Ultimate Compound bottle it should be ok to go straight to the fine cut after using it, and I reckon they're right going by the results I've seen with the old wool pad I was using.

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[nvr2old]

Sorry for the late reply, Pete. Start with the Ultimate Compound with the white wool pad, you can use the same compound then with the yellow pad, move to the Fine-Cut with the orange pad and then the same product with the black pad. A bit different then you have listed, but I'm pretty confident that order will work nicely. The #7 product is just to maintain the finish. It's what you'll use for 2 months instead of wax while it cures. It's a wonderful product, but is hand-applied.

 

[steve murdoch]

The stuff i am learning from this thread.
Again, thanks Pete and Larry for the ongoing lessons.

 

[Guest]

Ah of course, with ya' now Larry! I didn't even contemplate the same compound on different pads, but that makes sense. I've only ever hand applied the glaze so that's cool, just realised I didn't even check the bottle to see if it can be used with a polisher or not

I'll likely only get an hour or two in today so I'm not sure how much I'll get done, but I'm keen to get stuck in.

Glad you're learning Steve! Larry's a good teacher and Daryl's been a great help too.

PS: Larry, late reply? That was 2:20am my time when you replied, I reckon that was quite the early reply

 

[nvr2old]

PS: Larry, late reply? That was 2:20am my time when you replied, I reckon that was quite the early reply

Lol..I forget sometimes you're half way around the world..

I'm glad this is an educational lesson for other members, too. Happy to share.

I'm starting a new paint thread in the "Other Projects" section, also. I'm doing a mid 70's BMW 750 and a mid 70's Moto Guzzi V7 Sport side by side if anyone's interested in following along. Just got back from the shop and will load pics soon.

 

[Greg B]

Been liking this thread. Shame photo bucket stopped hosting photos, as quite a bit are now missing.
Noticed your centerstand stop several pages back, and thought I'd offer a suggestion.
Bracket mounts on the left pivot of the centerstand. Makes it tidy.

 

[Guest]

Haha yep Larry, just over the water a little bit

I'll definitely have to tune in to that thread! I'm always keen to see your handiwork and I have a soft spot for those V7 Guzzi's also.

Cheers Greg and yeah I haven't been motivated enough to go and fix the older posts... it's quite tedious finding the photo in Flickr and editing each post.

I actually contemplated putting the centre stand bump stop in that position but I couldn't get my head around how to make it work neatly, so thanks heaps for posting! I may revisit that yet as it's a much neater idea than hanging off the footpeg bracket which I'm not really a big fan of.

In the meantime I had quite the successful day!

I filed back the JB Weld repair in the stator cover area, pretty happy with how it ended up. I don't think it will be noticeable once the cases are painted.

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Then I broke out the new polishing pads and got to work.

Ultimate Compound on the white then yellow wool, then the fine cut cleaner on the orange then black foam, and then the glaze by hand.

I thought the paint was looking pretty good after the initial cut and polish, but boy was I wrong! I'm absolutely stoked with how well it's turned out!

A bit late in the afternoon to get good light but I think the photos still do it justice.

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I can get the pinstripes and decals on now, will endeavour to get that done during the week although it will somewhat depend on how much of a madhouse work is when I get back there tomorrow.

If I can get the Kat going as well as she looks I reckon I'll be on a winner!

 

[Sam 78 GS750]

WOW!!! :clap:

 

[Greg B]

Looks great.
I had to get a new tank, also. (Maybe the last one in the US)
As I screwed mine up using acid to etch the interior.
And, as you had noted, the silver is off, even from the original paint.
But I'm going to have to pay someone else to re-paint it. Way outside my skill set.

 

[nvr2old]

The body parts look fantastic, Pete! Isn't it amazing how all those different compounds and pads work together to bring that kind of depth and shine. It's all a great system that works every time when taken step by step. That bike is gonna be so cool.

 

[Guest]

Cheers Sam, yeah I sorta thought that exact same word and surprised myself once it was done

Cheers Greg! And very nice, a new tank is definitely worth the investment. I had a long conversation on the topic with the other local Kat riders here over brekky and by the time you add the effort to deal with rust and fix any dents a second hand tank has, it starts getting close to the price of a brand new tank which made it a no brainer for me. I didn't realise you were looking for a tank otherwise I would've said you may be able to get Mick Hone to send one over to you as they have correct painted 13L tanks available all cleared over with decals ready to go. Shipping wouldn't be cheap I would imagine though... I went with the cheaper incorrect silver version as I was painting the rest of the Kat anyway and was going to have to buy the paint regardless.

Yep Larry, you're spot on! Very glad I took your advice on again and grabbed those pads, it's ended up a world of difference to how the 450 ended up too. Once the Kat is done I've been seriously contemplating giving the 450 a refresh, so if I do then I know how I'm making the paint better this time

Special thanks to all your advice again Larry, your knowledge on the topic is outstanding and so glad you're willing to pass it on to others to learn too, very greatly appreciated!

And to Daryl too, thanks heaps for your input also!

 

[Fjbj40]

I think I want a Katana now.

That looks absolutely fabulous! Well done Pete, I never buff my paint jobs. I think I have been wrong in not doing so after seeing what you have done:applouse:.

Time for me to give it a go.

Cheers

 

[Guest]

Haha yep Daryl, they're certainly a head turner that's for sure!

You definitely need to give this polishing thing a go. All I did on the 450 was the fine cut cleaner on that wool pad I had, everything else by hand. I can see now where it would have been so much better had I gone through this whole process, it's a world of difference.

 

[Guest]

I got the pinstripes on last night, and I definitely like them as the separator between the black and silver.

However, the lighting in the garage is horrendous and I can't really tell if the satin red is ok or if it gets lost too much in the gloss black. I'll have to get it out in the sun on the weekend to see for sure.

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The tank's looking a little vacant now where the Suzuki decals need to be, really need to get those on too along with the side cover decals.

 

[nvr2old]

That looks real nice, Pete. The perfect addition to your paint. Something so simple and yet finishes it off so well. Are you going to do the fender, also..?

 

[Greg B]

Are you going to shoot another layer of clear over the tank decals?
The tank I messed up was that way, and I think it looks really good.
Wham I get my new tank repainted, I'm planning on having it done that way again.