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4 to 1 what a difference

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Well I finally located a 4 to 1 Jardine pipe for my bike at a local salvage yard looks like it was put on a bike and never used there wasn;t any carbon deposits in the pipe at alll.

What a difference that makes The weight difference in the pipes alone then removing the center stand. I have a k&N drop in right now. If i stick with the drop i shouldn;t have to rejet or anyhting should I . It is running just fine and I really don't notice any lags in power anywhere. I know a stage 3 with pods would be best but $113 plus pods would be a hard sell for the the wife.
 
always read your plugs Doug they will
tell you what you need to do.
 
Isn't there a a nice color chart out there on reading plugs I know I printed it once but I threw it away like an idiot.
 
hey dig dug mx6......... isnt that ihanscom's avitar?
 
Close, but not. Look closley mine is an e and his is an Es I noticed that after i upladed the picture too. Wierd I took the same angle shot in my garage too.
 
Skip
I think that Doug is signed in under two diferent names. I heard that some sneaks on this website have been doing just that. I think you cought him at it.
 
Re: 4 to 1 what a difference

dig dug mx6 said:
Well I finally located a 4 to 1 Jardine pipe for my bike at a local salvage yard looks like it was put on a bike and never used there wasn;t any carbon deposits in the pipe at alll.

What a difference that makes The weight difference in the pipes alone then removing the center stand. I have a k&N drop in right now. If i stick with the drop i shouldn;t have to rejet or anyhting should I . It is running just fine and I really don't notice any lags in power anywhere. I know a stage 3 with pods would be best but $113 plus pods would be a hard sell for the the wife.
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I'm wanting to change exhaust system this winter...I presently have the typical stock 4 into 2 pipes. I've heard great things about 4 into 1 systems...is there REALLY that much of a difference? How so?

Rudi
1980 GS1100E
 
The weight and power saving with a 4 into 1 are terrific, the only thing you should be carefull of is to make sure that your particular design leaves enough space for you to change the oil without having to remove the exhaust everytime. My V&H 4 into 1 requires that the entire system be removed, including the headers before I can even drain the oil :( . But at this point it only takes me about an hour to do the whole job, it's just a pain the the a$$
 
I'll second that. I have to pull the pipe also to change the filter but I can drain without removing. The weight difference is big. THe stock 4 to 2 is a tank compared to the 4 to 1.
 
are there a good set of 4into1 pipes out there that would NOT need to be taken off for an oil change?

Rudi
1980 GS1100E
 
Rudi said:
are there a good set of 4into1 pipes out there that would NOT need to be taken off for an oil change?

Rudi
1980 GS1100E
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I have the v&h megaphoe and it does not need to come off for oil cange or filter change
 
skip[ said:
Rudi said:
are there a good set of 4into1 pipes out there that would NOT need to be taken off for an oil change?

Rudi
1980 GS1100E
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I have the v&h megaphoe and it does not need to come off for oil cange or filter change
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Is the official name for it? the V&H "megaphone"?
 
i have a yoshimura4-1 on my 83 750e love the sound.quiet in town. crack it open and it screams.also i can change the oil with it on and retain my centerstand.M 8)
 
I've got a Jardine, and I've been able to keep the centre stand and I can get to the filter and oil drain plug without an exhaust systemectomy. :D
 
Does Jardine make pipes for the 1980 GS1100E? I would LOVE to keep my center stand and not have to take the pipes off when changed the oil.....

Rudi
1980 GS1100E
 
Ok...I just checked the Jardine website...and NO...they don't make pipes for the GS1100's.

FIGURES!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:


Rudi
1980 GS1100E
 
Rudi said:
Ok...I just checked the Jardine website...and NO...they don't make pipes for the GS1100's.

FIGURES!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:


Rudi
1980 GS1100E
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This is even better. A customer at my friend's shop was looking for a pipe for his two valve GS, and it was suggested that a Jardine was a cool pipe. They looked it up, hmmm, not listed. :? Sorry dude. Well this guy went home, got on the Jardine website, and lo and behold, they still make it! :D He got ahold of the Canadian distributor, and they said it was a special order and they don't take special orders. :? Hmmm, he got back to Jardine. They said they couldn't sell it to him as the distributor had sole rights in Canada. :evil: He got sneaky. He found a border town with a shop, ordered the pipe, rode down, had it installed, and rode home. :twisted: Screw the bullsh1t!
 
mcycle-nut said:
Rudi said:
Ok...I just checked the Jardine website...and NO...they don't make pipes for the GS1100's.

FIGURES!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:


Rudi
1980 GS1100E
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This is even better. A customer at my friend's shop was looking for a pipe for his two valve GS, and it was suggested that a Jardine was a cool pipe. They looked it up, hmmm, not listed. :? Sorry dude. Well this guy went home, got on the Jardine website, and lo and behold, they still make it! :D He got ahold of the Canadian distributor, and they said it was a special order and they don't take special orders. :? Hmmm, he got back to Jardine. They said they couldn't sell it to him as the distributor had sole rights in Canada. :evil: He got sneaky. He found a border town with a shop, ordered the pipe, rode down, had it installed, and rode home. :twisted: Screw the bullsh1t!
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Thats what life in Lecanto Florida is like Kev.
 
This is a topic I've seen hemmed about before here - there's a lack of new headers for old GSes.

I've got an original vintage Kerker 4-1 header with a Supertrapp slip-on on my '83 750E (quite the popular mod for the era, I hear). The bike runs great, sounds better, but could use some jetting.

My problem is the guy that had the bike before didn't know what to do with the rear shock adjusters, and couldn't figure out what the air fitting on the front forks was for. The suspension was softer than Bob Dole before Viagra when I got the bike. Driving it to a grocery not too long after I bought it (before I'd played with the suspension) I rolled a little too fast over a speed bump and *tink* knocked the collector on the top of the bump. After parking, I felt under the pipe for the damage, and found that most of the length of the collector was crunched in (and then spray-painted over as if it were a regular occurance)- not enough to restrict the air flow, but enough to worry about hot spots and future performance (not to mention rust).

After looking around quite a bit for new pipes, I could only find a 4-1 one piece megaphone by V&H, and the same from Kerker. I couldn't find a simple header from anyone - not Jardine, Mac, Kerker, V&H, Yosh...

I want to keep the slip-on, and like the look of a black header on ths bike. I've heard rumors of pipes from 1150E's fitting with minor mods, but nothing certain. I know it takes the same pipes as a 700E/ES, but even these are discontinued. Any info out there?

Thanks,

-Q!
 
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