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78 GS1000..how much faster is an 83 1100?

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l have a 78 GS1000 with VM29mm smoothbores,exhaust and all ignition upgrades. l have found out that my neighbor has an 83 GS1100 with pipe and VM33mm smoothbores l can buy for $500-. The bike has a custom seat and great paint. l`m thinking of swapping the 1100 motor into my 78 bike and then putting my spare motor into the 83 and selling it like that. He says that the 1100 will pull your arms out of their sockets and my 1000 isn`t doing that right now. Hmmm. Will the later motor swap over cleanly? what about the exhaust? any help appreciated:-s
 
If that's an E model, that 1100 is a 16v. Totally different experience with a TSCC motor. It'll have a tremendous amount of power compared to your 1000, I think. Why swap the motor? Just keep the 1100 intact! 500 is a screamin' deal if it's in good shape. I don't think the motor is a straight swap anyway.
 
thanks for the reply T3. Why swap the motor? several reasons...lets see. :l like the style of the 78 a lot better
:l can`t justify two big bore Suzuki`s
: if l swap the motor l can sell the newer bike and recoup my outlay(l`ll install my spare 781000 motor in it)
so l would really like to know what stands in my way of a no-hassle engine swap(hahahahahaha,no hassle,hahahahahaha)
 
raceman said:
so l would really like to know what stands in my way of a no-hassle engine swap(hahahahahaha,no hassle,hahahahahaha)
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Engine mounts? Chain alignment? It's certainly doable if you have welding/fabbing ability. Pretty sure it's not just a bolt-up. Buy the 1100 and sell the 1000 -- the look will grow on you! And you'll be happy about all the time/expense/trouble you saved.
 
hmmm,l still think it`s an easy bolt on swap..the cases look the same and that`s what matters
 
It is a bolt in for the 16 valve motor & the 16 valve pipe will work on your 78. Worst case is you also have to swap the wiring harness & fabricate an exhaust hanger bracket. Go for it, you WILL be happy with the power increase! Ray.
 
JATO said:
Rebuild your 1000 and put a 1100 kit in it.
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okay.How do l get the extra valves and corresponding horsepower? For Free? My engine has less then 10-K miles on it,a rebuild would be big$$ and not nessasary.Once l re-sell the 1983 bike l will be out of pocket $0.00 and still have my low mile 1000 motor to swap back in the 78.To me it`s a no brainer,l won`t have the nicer looking 8valve head but otherwise it`s all good.l`m doing it and l`ll post some pics when done,sounds like a full weekend project to b safe:)
 
Ride the '83 before you tear it apart....

Ride the '83 before you tear it apart....

It's two generations newer and a far faster, better, and prettier bike.
The difference in handling and braking far surpass the huge difference in acceleration.
 
tkent02 said:
It's two generations newer and a far faster, better, and prettier bike.
The difference in handling and braking far surpass the huge difference in acceleration.
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It's no use. He's determined to make things difficult! :-D
 
hahahaha..l do tend to choose the steeper path in most situations,hmmm. Anyhow l`ve decided l have yet another option here: put the older bodywork (tank,fenders,side covers,tail/seat,instruments) on the newer bike! Personally l Prefer my original 1978 style "Wes Cooley special " over the non-commital katana influenced style of the 83... What a dilemma....but l agree that the 83 chassis may have advantages over the 78 (alloy swing-arm)but the brakes look the same...l have the ability to make a complete frame here so l`m not too concerned with cutting and welding tabs to re-fit the older 78 bodywork onto the 83 and if fact sounds like an awesome weekend project. My 78 has some rare Morris Magnesium wheels that weigh about nothing so those would be swapped over along with the rearsets and lightweight drilled rotors,braided lines,fork brace,Dyna ignition and Andrews coils,etc. The 33 smoothbores look incredible on the 1100 motor:-D ,soon the backdating will begin.Purists,turn away!
 
Sounds like you have too many options please post some pics before and after of boths bikes! Then I will know if it is a do able projet for me.
 
Swap. Lol

Swap. Lol

Why Would You Want Too. Lol
I Had A Gs1000 Then I Got A 83 Gs1100e

Its Like Going From Weed To Crack Way More Hp In The 83 And Looks Better Keep It.. Sell The 79..
It Will Blow Your Mined!

P.s. Get Some Velcrow !! You Will Need It On The 83 Gs1100e
And To Think You Can Build It Up To A 1500cc Racebike If U Wanted...
Good Luck And Ride Safe...
 
The motor should be astraight swap.

I was going to do the same with my 1100>>1000 frame.

yes there is a power difference, not HUGE but signifcant.


I kept my 1000S and sold the 1100E I had.
It was just to...........I don't know.........ugly for me.

The earlier GS' had lines that flowed, not angles and weird shaped tanks....














Getting the flame retardent suit warmed up
 
I can understand your desire to swap the 16v motor into your 78 1000. (Even though I think you should get the 83 & just enjoy it!)
What makes you think putting the old 1000 motor into the 83 frame is a good idea? If you decide to swap engines, just sell the 83 frame & 1000 motor. Less work & you'll still make money.
As for the bodywork swap, keep in mind Suzuki changed the frames in 1982. The rear tank mount is different.

Terry
 
Thanks for all the feedback,l really appreciate it. Once l get both bikes sitting side by side and take the bodywork off l`ll have a better idea what l want to do. Selling a classic like my 78 just isn`t happening,that much l know.l choose my bikes for a number of reasons and historical significance is relevant here,the 83 has NONE in my opinion. The looks are growing on me though and l may cut loose a different bike or two to make room for it. Maybe. MY other bikes?: 74 kawi H2, a 76 kawi KZ900 and a 1962 Harley 900 XLH.All of these miss the mark for collectors due to their years being off a bit but they`re affordable like that.l have some other bikes l might sell though:) and the 83 IS only $500....
 
raceman said:
l`ve decided l have yet another option here: put the older bodywork (tank,fenders,side covers,tail/seat,instruments) on the newer bike!
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My brother use to do that at the tractor pulls. They had two White tractors that differed only by engine size and the stickers on the body. The body panel swap was quick. Take the big one to the pulls with the little body panels. Some people call it cheating.

In your case Id call fwd thinking...or backwards....Im not sure which.

Good luck with whatever. Sounds like fun.
 
Swap. Lol

Swap. Lol

look at it like this if you change motor's your not not going to make it faster or look cooler it will just be come one of the basted bike that dont match . and every one will ask you what the guy was thinking that did this if they dont know it was you that changed it.. please dont kill to0 good gs bike's .

chop a honda. lol
 
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