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82GS750T - Seal, T/M Gear Shift Oil

GSXR7ED

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I recently went on a long ride (100 miles round trip) and found my left boot somewhat soaked with oil after 50 miles. I looked for the source of the leak and thought the oil pan gasket that was the culprit.

I removed the transmission cover and cleaned all the gunk in there to discover the leak is coming from the GEAR SHIFTING SHAFT where the WASHER and CIRCLIP keep the Seal, T/M Gear Shift Oil in place.

I'd like to replace items 29, 30, & 31 but my question is, how do I remove item 29?


Here is a somewhat clean picture of the area in question.


And here are 2 of the 3 items I need to replace. I think the washer isn't thick enough to keep a proper seal and the seal itself would need to be replaced.


I'm thinking I should probably drain the oil and then pull the seal out with needle nose pliers but I don't wanna damage anything. What do you guys suggest?

Any other parts I should consider replacing according to the fiche?


Ed
 
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it would be best to pull the shaft but..
lean it to the right...a wall or something solid and pick the seal out.
IMO from oil leaks on the lower left in the past...the counter shaft seal usually runs down and helps with the mess.
also the neutral switch o-ring leaks(clean and silicone).

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be cool or else you will disengage the shift pawl/shaft that's behind the clutch basket...and that will open up a large can of worms as far as added parts and labor!
 
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blowerbike said:
it would be best to pull the shaft but..
lean it to the right...a wall or something solid and pick the seal out.
IMO from oil leaks on the lower left in the past...the counter shaft seal usually runs down and helps with the mess.
also the neutral switch o-ring leaks(clean and silicone).

ADDED!!!
be cool or else you will disengage the shift pawl/shaft that's behind the clutch basket...and that will open up a large can of worms as far as added parts and labor!
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Thanks for the feedback...yes, I don't wanna mess with the shaft portion of the gear. That would be terrible. What I plan on doing is using needle nose pliers to remove the seal. Of course, before I do that, I need to make sure I look at the seal to see how it fits into the slot. I'll be ordering (2) SEALS, T/M GEAR SHIFT OIL and see if they can be slowly inserted into place. I'll use a pipe with the same diameter as the seal and lightly hit it with a mallet. I will get as close to the outer portion of the seal so as not to damage the middle of the seal.

I'll post pics while I'm in LA if I get the parts in time before I come back to NM.


Ed
 
Well guess what I did...disengage the shift paw. That pin and washer keep the paw in place and I made the mistake of pushing it to see how the seal comes out. So now I won't be riding as I expected in LA. I'm bummed.


Ed
 
I bought the M370 Clymer "Manual GS750 Fours 1977-1982" today--getting delivered to LA; Thanks Z1Enterprises...3-Day UPS delivery.


Ed
 
It should be very easy to fix, unless the clutch cover gasket disintegrates.

Don't even have to drain the oil to do it.

Did the oil seal go in OK?
 
tkent02 said:
It should be very easy to fix, unless the clutch cover gasket disintegrates.

Don't even have to drain the oil to do it.

Did the oil seal go in OK?
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Thanks tkent!

I'm gonna wait till I get to LA to tackle this task. I'm guessing the seal should be easy to remove once I remove the clutch cover. The clutch was rebuild when I bought the bike last year so...fingers crossed the gasket doesn't fall apart.

The manual should be at my mom's house by this Saturday...same day I arrive. More replies to come with pics!


Ed
 
you just center the teeth of the shaft and paw assy.
that's it.
yeah pushing on the shaft will let it disengaged and drop down...it happen's...


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take a plastic hammer and work on the clutch cover pretty good all over.
the shock will help the gasket come loose and maybe not break or stick.
 
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Many Thanks

Many Thanks

blowerbike said:
you just center the teeth of the shaft and paw assy.
that's it.
yeah pushing on the shaft will let it disengaged and drop down...it happen's...


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take a plastic hammer and work on the clutch cover pretty good all over.
the shock will help the gasket come loose and maybe not break or stick.
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I'll take pics of the clutch cover removed and see how the paw assy fits. I'm guessing the shaft will push right through when the cover is off and the SEAL should slide right off.

I feel better now knowing it isn't gonna be too difficult a task. Thanks for the pointers about the gasket. Time to hit Harbor Freight for a plastic hammer.


Ed
 
GSXR7ED said:
I'll take pics of the clutch cover removed and see how the paw assy fits. I'm guessing the shaft will push right through when the cover is off and the SEAL should slide right off.

I feel better now knowing it isn't gonna be too difficult a task. Thanks for the pointers about the gasket. Time to hit Harbor Freight for a plastic hammer.


Ed
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going off of memory...
the complete clutch basket assembly has to be removed for the shaft to come out far enough to get to the seal straight on.
 
GSXR7ED said:
I'll take pics of the clutch cover removed and see how the paw assy fits. I'm guessing the shaft will push right through when the cover is off and the SEAL should slide right off.

I feel better now knowing it isn't gonna be too difficult a task. Thanks for the pointers about the gasket. Time to hit Harbor Freight for a plastic hammer.


Ed
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Ed, if you have to get a new clutch cover seal, make sure you get a OEM gasket. There are some cut gaskets on Ebay that aren't OEM. I know I bought one and it wouldn't seal for crap. I bought a new OEM and no problems. Good luck on the repairs.
 
I Won't Begin Work Till In LA

I Won't Begin Work Till In LA

blowerbike said:
going off of memory...
the complete clutch basket assembly has to be removed for the shaft to come out far enough to get to the seal straight on.
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I should have my Clymer's Manual by Saturday; I'll get started once I settle into my Mom's house. Pics to follow.

mrbill5491 said:
Ed, if you have to get a new clutch cover seal, make sure you get a OEM gasket. There are some cut gaskets on Ebay that aren't OEM. I know I bought one and it wouldn't seal for crap. I bought a new OEM and no problems. Good luck on the repairs.
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For some reason, I couldn't find the clutch cover gasket on BoulevardSuzuki's fiche otherwise I would have ordered it.

The clutch was rebuilt when I bought the bike so I'll do my best to gently remove the cover.


Ed
 
Going To California

Going To California

Loaded the bike with the help from a co-worker; thanks Kenny!



I left the cover off because I accidently put it in gear; I didn't want to hold the clutch in just to move her around.



I know, I know...the chain needs to be treated before I ride again. This bike needs a lot of things but she is safe to ride (at least I feel safe on her and that's what matters).

I'l also be replacing both brakes/pads/shoes while in LA. Right after I get this seal/clutch paw aligned without damaging the clutch cover gasket.

Ed
 
Moar Fotos!!!!!

Moar Fotos!!!!!

This time I borrowed a nice camera to get these pics!












Ed
 
Clutch Cover Removal

Clutch Cover Removal

Okay, so my Clymers Manual won't get here until this Friday (Holiday Schedule).

Tonite, I decided to remove the clutch cover as was suggested: tapping the cover lightly with a plastic hammer. I did that but then I thought, What if I remove the oil cap? Sure enough, as soon as I twisted it, pressure was released and the cover came off with the gasket intact.

I used a cardboard and my best diagram drawing to keep track of all the bolts because they are different sizes. Some oil drained out so gald I had the oil pan underneath. I replaced the cover until my parts & manual come arrive...hopefully this week but I'm not holding my breath.

Merry Christmas you guys/gals.







Ed
 
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Clutch Pics Posted

Clutch Pics Posted

I was having upload delays to photobucket...but finally got them loaded.

Ed
 
That looks like one of those projects that starts simple enough and then blows out on you. Good luck!
 
yasser said:
That looks like one of those projects that starts simple enough and then blows out on you. Good luck!
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Yeah, I am thinking this isn't as simple as it looks. Haven't looked in here for any previous threads that could be helpful.

I'm imagining a big spring-loaded action that results in all the plates popping out. But let's hope that's not the case.


Ed
 
GSXR7ED said:
I'm imagining a big spring-loaded action that results in all the plates popping out. But let's hope that's not the case.
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It's not one big spring-loaded action, there are SIX springs. :eek:

OK, no alarm, though. Just loosen each of them a couple turns at a time, keep going around the circle until they are all out. There is virtually no spring pressure on the bolts for the last couple of turns, but if you remove five bolts completely, leaving one bolt tight, there will be a considerably amount of strain on that one bolt.

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6 Springs

6 Springs

Steve said:
It's not one big spring-loaded action, there are SIX springs. :eek:

OK, no alarm, though. Just loosen each of them a couple turns at a time, keep going around the circle until they are all out. There is virtually no spring pressure on the bolts for the last couple of turns, but if you remove five bolts completely, leaving one bolt tight, there will be a considerably amount of strain on that one bolt.

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I'm confident this won't be as bad as I'm thinking it will. Thanks Steve.

Ed
 
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