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Couple of pics to show progress, still need more glazing putty and some more sanding, more pics at photobucket.
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Couple of pics to show progress, still need more glazing putty and some more sanding, more pics at photobucket.
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GQROD
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This is as far as i can get on progress, gotta leave for a couple weeks on personal business so i'll have to continue with prep and finally paint when i get back. I should have the other large box by then so stay tuned.
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Roostabunny
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Awesome, thanks for the thread and pics, GQROD!
I was looking at this idea a few months back and got stuck thinking about the mounting frame. I appreciate the info, and especially the thoughts on a modular mounting system.
I wonder what would be the difference in material cost and equipment to build this frame out of aluminum?
Anyone fooled with/have pics of a surplus night-vision goggle case as a trunk? Those things looked perfect to me when I was at the surplus store.
I was looking at this idea a few months back and got stuck thinking about the mounting frame. I appreciate the info, and especially the thoughts on a modular mounting system.
I wonder what would be the difference in material cost and equipment to build this frame out of aluminum?
Anyone fooled with/have pics of a surplus night-vision goggle case as a trunk? Those things looked perfect to me when I was at the surplus store.
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GQROD
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Thank you very much! ( by the way the Millenium Falcon RULES! )
If you look at Pannier system they have alluminum boxes and tubing but their mounting system though simple is expensive all around but it's not liked by many who bought it cause it's so flimsy. ( the mounting tube frame ).
I'm a sucker for steel because i don't have the alluminum welding kit for my flux core welder.
To make it out of alluminum is going to cost more, the alluminum at home depot i don't know what type it is if you intend on welding i don't know if it will suffer from metal fatique from the heat, you can get 6061 alluminum annealed so it can work harden, but it's pricey for it's intended purpose and steel tubing 1/16th inch is not really that heavy.
I went with square tubing because i already had it from a previous project so it was free and since my frame is square it made sense, other wise i would have gone with round tubing ( round tubing is a nightmare though if you not sure how to calculate bending radius so save yourself the headaches!!!!! )
It's the large boxes that weigh 19 pounds so one thing i came up with was to use allminum to make the box but use the ammo box lids and seals in order to save on fabrication time etc. But i need the alluminum welding kit for my welder so i went with steel.
There are hundreds of choices when it comes to luggage/cases/trunks i just went with the standard boxes because they were the most durable and cheap.
Plus if i want to customize the box as i will for a small trunk below th rear license plate, i realized there is a lot of space there so i will get a small box then cut it to make a larger box that is not as heavy as the larger box and mount it to the rear.
The good thing about this mounting system is that if i bored with these boxes i can always use the same pin set up and just bolt rather than weld and i can still utilize the same frame so it's a very very flexible system.
My advice to anyone is if it makes sense financially and it's practical then do it, have fun with the projects.
I decided to paint the boxes blue to match the bikes color scheme so look to photobucket for updates in two weeks when i get back.
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spyug
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An interesting thread and good work sir but she's going to be a bit incomplete. You might need another trip to the surplus store. Check out this baby: http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles...ss-hoss-motorcycle-ar69413/picture282563.html
Peace through superior firepower
Nothing like a bit of ordinance to get the job done.
cheers all,
Spyug.
Peace through superior firepower
Nothing like a bit of ordinance to get the job done.cheers all,
Spyug.
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GQROD
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An interesting thread and good work sir but she's going to be a bit incomplete. You might need another trip to the surplus store. Check out this baby: http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles...ss-hoss-motorcycle-ar69413/picture282563.html
Peace through superior firepower
cheers all,
Spyug.
Ha now that's playin with power, cool link.
I think every bike should have a gatling gun! although i have seriously considered putting rocket launchers on my bike, but other than july 4rth no real use for rockets without a targeting system........now that's an idea!
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GQROD
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Just got back so i'll be able to make progress on the hard bags.
Recieved the second large box while i was away, so i'll be welding the mounts to it then sanding all the boxes to prep them for paint. Then it's onto the locking mechanism utilizing the helmut locks.
Stay tuned.
Recieved the second large box while i was away, so i'll be welding the mounts to it then sanding all the boxes to prep them for paint. Then it's onto the locking mechanism utilizing the helmut locks.
Stay tuned.
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GQROD
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Update
Update
I managed to get the mounts for the second large ammo box welded up and mounted the boxes.
When on the side stand leaned over i have about 2/12 to 3 inches of space from the bottom of the box to the ground about 30 to 35 degrees of lean will be max so high speed twisties may be out of the question with the large boxes mounted.
Center of graivity isn't affected too bad since the boxes are much lower on the frame than Pannier or other set ups so this is a plus in handling well.
Now i can start prepping the boxes with primer for paint, i'll be going with Bahama Blue by Dupli Color since another member on this site was nice enough to post that this color comes closest to the factory blue color used on the these models. I may do a two tone white and blue or just all blue, haven't decided yet.
I'll post pics tomorrow to photobucket of the large boxes on.
Update
I managed to get the mounts for the second large ammo box welded up and mounted the boxes.
When on the side stand leaned over i have about 2/12 to 3 inches of space from the bottom of the box to the ground about 30 to 35 degrees of lean will be max so high speed twisties may be out of the question with the large boxes mounted.
Center of graivity isn't affected too bad since the boxes are much lower on the frame than Pannier or other set ups so this is a plus in handling well.
Now i can start prepping the boxes with primer for paint, i'll be going with Bahama Blue by Dupli Color since another member on this site was nice enough to post that this color comes closest to the factory blue color used on the these models. I may do a two tone white and blue or just all blue, haven't decided yet.
I'll post pics tomorrow to photobucket of the large boxes on.
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GQROD
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Ok finally got the large bags mounted to take some new pics. More at my photobucket link in my signature, but you can see how it looks in proportion to the bikes lines.
Still gotta figure out locks and start prepping for paint.
This shot below shows the small boxes mounted for reference.
Still gotta figure out locks and start prepping for paint.
This shot below shows the small boxes mounted for reference.
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arcturius
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What is that on the right side of your fairing?
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GQROD
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On the right side just below the cowling is a Wolo Bad Boy 132 decibal air horn purchased at Harbor Freight it is LOUD!
Mounted to a sheet steel plate i cut to the contour below the cowling, i'll be making a cover for it once i am ready to do the body work to mount an aftermarket fiberglass full fairing that will cover the engine and headers. Similiar to the export GSX and F models.
There is available an air scoop that is like the factory one but this will be too big once i mount the lower full fairing. I will have to do a bit of plastic welding to repair the cracks so body work is last on the list after the mechanicals and crash bars/ case savers i'll be fabricating.
As well as custom handle bar extensions i'll be fabricating from 12 guage DOM tubular steel to raise the handle bars, allowing for a more comfortable riding position.
Mounted to a sheet steel plate i cut to the contour below the cowling, i'll be making a cover for it once i am ready to do the body work to mount an aftermarket fiberglass full fairing that will cover the engine and headers. Similiar to the export GSX and F models.
There is available an air scoop that is like the factory one but this will be too big once i mount the lower full fairing. I will have to do a bit of plastic welding to repair the cracks so body work is last on the list after the mechanicals and crash bars/ case savers i'll be fabricating.
As well as custom handle bar extensions i'll be fabricating from 12 guage DOM tubular steel to raise the handle bars, allowing for a more comfortable riding position.
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Ok finally got the large bags mounted to take some new pics. More at my photobucket link in my signature, but you can see how it looks in proportion to the bikes lines.
Still gotta figure out locks and start prepping for paint.
This shot below shows the small boxes mounted for reference.
your rear right reflector is cracked.
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Gimpdiggity
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Now that you've spent all this time and effort putting them all together...I'll give you $100 for the mounting frame and both cases!!!! 
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GQROD
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SOLD! i can then buy a new reflector ( actually i'll be mocking up a rear trunk for helmut storage so the reflector will be replaced with a side marker light, don't really like the trunks that are out there they look like they belong on scooters )
( actually i'll be mocking up a rear trunk for helmut storage so the reflector will be replaced with a side marker light, don't really like the trunks that are out there they look like they belong on scooters )
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Clone
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I have two questions as I figure the air horn that is on the side of your fairing answers the previous question.
1. Do those big boxes hang behind your megaphones or outside them?
2. Where will you mount your signal lights?
1. Do those big boxes hang behind your megaphones or outside them?
2. Where will you mount your signal lights?
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GQROD
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1-In the pics i posted on photobucket it shows how i fabricated turn downs, i bought 1 5/8 OD muffler tubing mandrel bent 180 degrees. Cut it in half and made and welded exhaust turn downs so the exhaust flows down when the big boxes are mounted.
It actually sounds slighty throaty and doesn't have that high pitched wine.
2-It did not have the stock signal lights, as a stop gap measure i bought cheap bullet marker lights to use as signal lights. These marker lights mount in the stock location and because they have a small " L " bracket clearance is not a problem.
I may change this however i still haven't decided though. It may show in the pics on photobucket how the lights look but not with the boxes mounted yet.
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GQROD
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Spent the afternoon getting the blue matched up at a local auto paint supply.
I went with Valspar urethane base coat/clear coat because i'll be painting the bike in the near spring so i wanted all the paint to be the same shade and be more durable than the bahama blue by dupli color i originally was going to use for the boxes.
The codes i picked up at alpha-sports was no good,
it did not come up on their computer system, so i wound up going with the closest match which is a metallic blue cobalt by suzuki code Z3W.
I went with Valspar urethane base coat/clear coat because i'll be painting the bike in the near spring so i wanted all the paint to be the same shade and be more durable than the bahama blue by dupli color i originally was going to use for the boxes.
The codes i picked up at alpha-sports was no good,
it did not come up on their computer system, so i wound up going with the closest match which is a metallic blue cobalt by suzuki code Z3W.
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GQROD
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Dressed the welds that will be visible from the outside on the frame, sprayed with metal etching primer and finally fill and sand primer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5c5y5pyOmY This link gives some info on Dupli Color primers for those doing their own metal work projects.
Minor filler and glazing putty work needed then final coat of primer and paint of the mounting frame then it's onto the prep on the boxes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5c5y5pyOmY This link gives some info on Dupli Color primers for those doing their own metal work projects.
Minor filler and glazing putty work needed then final coat of primer and paint of the mounting frame then it's onto the prep on the boxes.
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Clone
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Just looking at the pics again, why wouldn't you mount the bags up a little higher? Say with the top of the box even with the bottom of the seat, at that height they wouldn't bother the passenger. It would be an easy modification to your existing rack, then you could run from your footpeg to the grab rail under the seat.
I see that you have a spot to mount a third box behind the bike, I like that.
I see that you have a spot to mount a third box behind the bike, I like that.
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Deivets Cetdar
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can't wait to see the end result...
can't wait to see the end result...
Hmmm...
I like the work you are doing. Not really my style but style is up to the owner. I can't wait entil you are done. NICE work. I like that ALL of these bikes don't look the same.
can't wait to see the end result...
Hmmm...
I like the work you are doing. Not really my style but style is up to the owner. I can't wait entil you are done. NICE work. I like that ALL of these bikes don't look the same.