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Bad Buying Experience

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Flywheel

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I recently requested a speedometer sensor and one of our members, Kevin Liberman, sent me an axel gear/cable drive: a mere three feet from the part I wanted. After I notified him of the problem, he said I needed to describe the part better. Well, a "reed switch in the speedometer" seemed as good of a description I could make for the part. He has not responded to my request for a refund, only to offer me other parts if I return the drive.

Sorry Kevin, but this is not how you treat a buying customer. Thumbs down on your part service activity as a result. :mad:
 
You bought one thing, he sold you something else entirely, and he's keeping your money?

Thanks for the warning.
 
This guy has burned several other members.Do a search on his name. I would avoid him.
 
Flywheel said:
I recently requested a speedometer sensor and one of our members, Kevin Liberman, sent me an axel gear/cable drive: a mere three feet from the part I wanted. After I notified him of the problem, he said I needed to describe the part better. Well, a "reed switch in the speedometer" seemed as good of a description I could make for the part. He has not responded to my request for a refund, only to offer me other parts if I return the drive.

Sorry Kevin, but this is not how you treat a buying customer. Thumbs down on your part service activity as a result. :mad:
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If you asked me for one of those I would also probably assume you wanted the the drive on the wheel.
 
Reed switch in the speedometer does not sound too much like speedomerter cable drive.
And I bet even if you did make this mistake you would fix it when the buyer complained.
 
almarconi said:
This guy has burned several other members.Do a search on his name. I would avoid him.
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I couldn't find anything. Do you have a link ? I hate to brand someone without a little more info. But for now I'll give it extra thought if a need to deal with him arises.
 
tkent02 said:
Reed switch in the speedometer does not sound too much like speedomerter cable drive.
And I bet even if you did make this mistake you would fix it when the buyer complained.
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The original request was for a "speedometer sensor ", I and yes I would probably feel responsible if I sent out a part that a buyer did not want.(I know Bill has even done this when he had even sent a picture of the part before hand) :clap: Shipping is a big part of the cost and especially having to send it back.
 
Reed switch in the speedometer? Post a link or a picture of what you need. If it from a gs, would think that is a aftermarket speedo you are talking about.
A reed switch is like a proximity switch correct?
Used to measure the rotations of the wheel?
If it a standard part on a older gs I am not familiar with it but will open A busted speedometer I have and send it out to you free of charge as the busted speedometer is of no use to me.
I have been curious as to taking it apart anyways.
And I can help a brother out at the same time!!
Win Win situation.
Going to sleep now as I work third shift but will check this thread when I wake up tonight.

Ok, It is now morning for me (8:30 pm eastern time)
I have never had a Gs or any other with canceling signals so I will not be the one to help you out.
Hope you can get it fixed soon.
 
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Crankthat said:
Reed switch in the speedometer? Post a link or a picture of what you need. If it from a gs, would think that is a aftermarket speedo you are talking about.
A reed switch is like a proximity switch correct?
Used to measure the rotations of the wheel?
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The reed switch is only on GS models with self-cancelling turn signals. The reed switch clicks shut (or open?) when the magnet inside the speedo turns. You can hear this when you push the bike and hear a little "ping ping ping" from the speedometer.

Flywheel: if you need a new reed switch (and not a new cable or the plastic holder), and don't mind some soldering, you might try Radio Shack. I know I've seen them there years ago, but who knows if they still carry them now.
 
bccap said:
I couldn't find anything. Do you have a link ? I hate to brand someone without a little more info. But for now I'll give it extra thought if a need to deal with him arises.
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There have been some threads unfortunately perhaps in the for sale section. Liberman, did pull a classic number on Nick (niclpnutl). A buy for a 1100ED clutch was agreed; Nick even sent Lieberman a clutch puller to remove it. Liberman apparently used the puller to remove two clutches and then sold them for more money after he found out how much they were worth. Damaged the puller in the process and just sent back the broken puller back to Nick. Real class that is. :eek:

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showpost.php?p=1867139&postcount=21
There are more. I just did a search with "Lieberman" in the post; this shows up right away

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?p=1867983&highlight=Liberman#post1867983

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?p=1867460&highlight=Liberman#post1867460

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?p=1865464&highlight=Liberman#post1865464
 
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posplayr said:
Liberman, did pull a classic number on Nick (niclpnutl). A buy for a 1100ED clutch was agreed; Nick even sent Lieberman a clutch puller to remove it. Liberman apparently used the puller to remove two clutches and then sold them for more money after he found out how much they were worth. Damaged the puller in the process and just sent back the broken puller back to Nick. Real class that is. :eek:
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I remember that one...

The reed switch is inside the speedo. You might try looking on Mouser dot com for it as well as from a used speedometer.
 
I'm surprised he hasn't replaced Eric Raley at the top of the deadbeat buyers list. He seems to have moved on, hasn't posted here in a while.
 
It sounds like I should have been more aware of this member's performance.

My post for the part was very clear stating a speed sensor reed switch "in the speedometer" (the reed switch is that tiny glass tube inside the speedometer that create current pulses as the speedometer turns so that the signal processor can know when to turn off signal light) nothing about the axel gear/cable drive. He either doesn't know his GS bikes and parts, or simple saw a fish to take.

Anyway, I should have also included a picture, but you would expect a "supplier" to do what it takes to correct the situation. Oh well, he got my beer money for a week or two!
 
Flywheel said:
(the reed switch is that tiny glass tube inside the speedometer that create current pulses as the speedometer turns so that the signal processor can know when to turn off signal light)
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A small correction if I may. The reed switch is a simple make or break set of contacts. It does not create current, rather it allows current to flow.
 
Flywheel said:
It sounds like I should have been more aware of this member's performance.

My post for the part was very clear stating a speed sensor reed switch "in the speedometer" (the reed switch is that tiny glass tube inside the speedometer that create current pulses as the speedometer turns so that the signal processor can know when to turn off signal light) nothing about the axel gear/cable drive. He either doesn't know his GS bikes and parts, or simple saw a fish to take.

Anyway, I should have also included a picture, but you would expect a "supplier" to do what it takes to correct the situation. Oh well, he got my beer money for a week or two!
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You guys need to remember something, there are people selling stuff on motorcycle forums & other forums for that matter who don't know sh&t about what they are selling. They do it to save 10-12% ebay fees and figure it may be easier (and more profitable) to sell a part on a "For Sale" thread to people who really are into the whatever it is they are into.

There is a guy here who sells GS parts on this forum, and on another forum he sells another brand part and yet another forum another brand part, you get the idea. Also, he doesn't do pics either....I have asked. You pay, you get parts, thats that. It must work for him.

The guy in question with the part issue may be dealing with just such a guy. Be real nice if the deadbeat list was alive and well but apparently it isn't:(
 
Rustybronco is correct that the switch does not create current only switches on and off to create pulses for processor to monitor. thanks for noting that. it is a pretty simple switch but very functional for many uses.
 
posplayr said:
There have been some threads unfortunately perhaps in the for sale section. Liberman, did pull a classic number on Nick (niclpnutl). A buy for a 1100ED clutch was agreed; Nick even sent Lieberman a clutch puller to remove it. Liberman apparently used the puller to remove two clutches and then sold them for more money after he found out how much they were worth. Damaged the puller in the process and just sent back the broken puller back to Nick. Real class that is. :eek:

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showpost.php?p=1867139&postcount=21
There are more. I just did a search with "Lieberman" in the post; this shows up right away

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?p=1867983&highlight=Liberman#post1867983

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?p=1867460&highlight=Liberman#post1867460

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?p=1865464&highlight=Liberman#post1865464
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None of those links work:confused:
 
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