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Battery Wouldn't Crank the bike this morning... Quick Charging Question.

  • Thread starter Thread starter Darin Jordan
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tom203 said:
Can stators be maintained???? I think they are like tires.
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I know... it gets a little tiring being accused of NOT maintaining things... As I've stated, I've done all the connection maintenance, cleaned the connections, measured the connections, re-verified the connections... Not sure how much more "maintenance" I'm suppose to do. The Stator is buried inside the motor, and the R/R is a sealed box.... they either work or they don't. From what I've read in the Stator Papers (in my efforts to maintain my system... ;) ), it appears that, regardless of what I do, eventually, the R/R and/or Stator are going to fail, due to the design.

tom203 said:
For Darin Jordan; try this simple link to get your methodical side going...

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?p=1272192#post1272192
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Thanks... copied and printed... I'll go over things again and move on from there...
 
tkent02 said:
This part is not true, they do not all fail.

Have you retested the tests since this problem started?
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Going to do that again tonight...

In the meantime, I just canceled the ElecroSport order until I get this sorted...

The problem just happened this morning... haven't an issue before then, so whatever it was, it happened rather suddenly.
 
Darin Jordan said:
The problem just happened this morning... haven't an issue before then, so whatever it was, it happened rather suddenly.
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Not necessarily, 4 weeks ago my charging system started behaving oddly ( I have an onboard voltmeter)- voltage failed to get to its usual 14+ volts, hovered at 12.5 mostly. I put about 300 miles on it this condition and it never failed to start even though I did not charge battery between rides. Your system could have been slowly deteriorating over time.
 
tom203 said:
Not necessarily, 4 weeks ago my charging system started behaving oddly ( I have an onboard voltmeter)- voltage failed to get to its usual 14+ volts, hovered at 12.5 mostly. I put about 300 miles on it this condition and it never failed to start even though I did not charge battery between rides. Your system could have been slowly deteriorating over time.
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Hmmm... Well... sounds like it might not be a bad idea to install a small voltage gauge so one can keep track of such things. I'll stop tonight and pick one up.
 
Darin Jordan said:
Hmmm... Well... sounds like it might not be a bad idea to install a small voltage gauge so one can keep track of such things. I'll stop tonight and pick one up.
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I have one on the 1100G, it's good to see the numbers and know it's working well. The other GSes, just have to trust that if it's worked fine all these years, it probably still is.
I would rather have a meter on all of them.
 
tkent02 said:
I have one on the 1100G, it's good to see the numbers and know it's working well. The other GSes, just have to trust that if it's worked fine all these years, it probably still is.
I would rather have a meter on all of them.
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I'm sold! Will have one on there shortly... :D

I raced sports cars with the SCCA for years... I'm kind if a "gauge freak" anyhow... ;)
 
Well... I managed to make it home... Battery was down below 10V when I got it on the charger.

On the way home, the bike would die if I left it at idle too long. Under way, if the RPMs were below 3000 or so, the blinkers wouldn't blink, the guages were dim, the headlight was almost non-existent. The blinkers would blink fairly normally above 4000 RPM, but as the RPM dropped, they would go solid, then start to fade.

I'm charging the battery and will test the system completely.
 
check the system completely you my get lucky and just need a battery or a regulator. I does sound like you are not charging at all though. Go through the stator pages and diagnose from there. It would be a shame to spend the money on a new stator to find out you have a bad battery or regulator. Although I have known people to have a problem and just replace everything.and never realy know what was wrong.
 
Darin, I have about the same commute you have (30 miles roundtrip) and would hook up a float charger every night just because I thought that was standard procedure. (I do it even now because I think it makes the battery last longer, say 4-5 years). The bike and original battery ran fine for a year, until I took a long trip and ended up having to push-start the bike every morning. It turned out the Prior Owner had messed with the wiring so only two of the three yellow wires from the stator were connected. I had enough juice to light the plugs and run the headlight, but that's all. Did an 1,800 mile trip like this, and then hooked up the third yellow wire when I finally figured it out back home.

Buying a float charger is a good idea, because it tops up your battery every night while you're commuting. But it could mask a greater problem that you need to fix if you go on a long trip. On the plus side, if you get a float charger, you buy yourself more time to fix the problem while you figure out what the problem is. At least you can get to work and back, assuming your battery charges overnight.
 
hjfisk said:
check the system completely you my get lucky and just need a battery or a regulator. I does sound like you are not charging at all though. Go through the stator pages and diagnose from there. It would be a shame to spend the money on a new stator to find out you have a bad battery or regulator. Although I have known people to have a problem and just replace everything.and never realy know what was wrong.
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I didn't have a chance to run through the diagnostics this weekend, but I did put the battery on a charger for about 6-hours @2.0A... Was at 9.7V but charged up to 12.76. I let it sit all day Saturday and then put it on the charger @1A to verify that it was fully charged and the charger kicked off within 5-minutes. Battery voltage was again around 12.76...

With that charged, I'll go through the tests this week and see what the rest of the system is doing.

Should I need a Stator and R/R... It appears that the Rick's Stators are pretty well regarded. Any other recommendations for a replacement Stator and R/R??
 
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