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Best place to get new stator and gasket?

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Need a new stator and crankcase gasket for my 1978 gs550. I have been looking around. Is there any brands I should avoid? What do you guys recommend? I only found one fit on fleabay around 95 for the stator and 15 for the gasket.

Thanks in advance.
 
That's typical pricing for new aftermarket stator. Your stator is probably a 12 pole model-in 1980, 18 poles became the norm, so make sure you check. I recall Basscliff using a Caltric ? stator with good results- about $90 on ebay.
 
You can order both items from Z1 enterprises. Not the lowest priced stator, but it is high quality. The crankcase gasket is good as well, or you can buy a sheet of gasket material from your local auto parts store for about $4.50 (buy the blue colored stuff) and make your own.:D
 
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You can order both items from Z1 enterprises. Not the lowest priced stator, but it is high quality. The crankcase gasket is good as well, or you can buy a sheet of gasket material from your local auto parts store for about $4.50 (buy the blue colored stuff) and make your own.:D
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One of the first places I looked as I ordered all new jets and needles from them in the past however the website says they do not carry it for the 550.

http://www.z1enterprises.com/SearchResult.aspx?All=True&KeyWords=stator
 
Hi,

My favorite stator is the Rick's Electrics unit. You can buy direct from their website but I think other online vendors sell them a little cheaper. You might save $20 or so from Rick's price of $140.

I am currently using a Caltric stator (about $90). They are an eBay seller that has a pretty good part. It's working fine so far, almost a year (I think, I'll have to check my records).

Gaskets are cheap. You might as well order 2 or 3 and have spares. You just never know.

I would not recommend Electrosport or RM Stator.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Bringing this one back from the archives...
I read on an ATV forum somewhere earlier today that someone swore that the Caltric Stators were the exact same stator as the RM Stators, only with a lower price. I have read only good things about the Caltrics on here. Maybe in reference to our models they aren't the same, but who knows.
 
If your bike doesn't have a tendency to burn up stators then the Caltric will work fine. My bike ate three (two from me) Caltric stators before I upgraded to a Rick's Electric and a Compufire. Honestly though I would just pop for the Ricks, I got mine off Amazon for $120 and trying to save a few bucks was NOT worth all the extra hassle the cheap ones gave me.
 
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Nightcrawler said:
Need a new stator and crankcase gasket for my 1978 gs550. I have been looking around. Is there any brands I should avoid? What do you guys recommend? I only found one fit on fleabay around 95 for the stator and 15 for the gasket.

Thanks in advance.
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Don't forget to test the R/R, buying everything else and using a bad R/R is going to make you end up right back where you are.
 
To Chuck78; remember that both your bikes likely use a 12 pole stator, Last time that I looked at Caltric, there was some confusion with the pre 1980's bikes. Ask for a pic of actual stator to be sure.
 
I was a bit suspicious of that as it lists many 1980 - 1986 models of 400/425/450/etc.but only 77-79 GS750, & the photo given definitely looks like an 18 pole stator. It still could be the proper unit as a lot of high volume sellers will just use a generic photo to keep listing management simplified. I will be very cautious none the less.
However if a Rick's unit is much higher quality and I can find one for as low as $120 as I read in a 2 year old or so post, maybe I should just minimize my risks in the purchase and longevity of the product and go for the better unit.
 
From other members here I was under the impression that starting in 1980 all models switched to an 18 pole stator. That Caltric listings state otherwise however. Is anyone able to confirm this???
 
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From other members here I was under the impression that starting in 1980 all models switched to an 18 pole stator. That Caltric listings state otherwise however. Is anyone able to confirm this???
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Caltric might be using a generic photo- but their listings are inaccurate- 1980 stators were 18 pole, so a stator for an 82 gs450 would not work (at least very well) on a 78 model bike. If you can get a Rick's for your bike, go for it.
 
Here are a few different ebay listings from Caltric. One Specifically lists 1980 - 1983 GS 750 models.
The one that lists 77-79 GS750 also lists
GS250T 1980-81 GS300L 1982-85 GS400X 1977-78 GS425E 1979 GS425L 1979 GS450ET 1980-82 GS450EX 1980-82 GS450EZ 1980-82 GS450L 1980-88 GS450ST 1980-82 GS450SX 1980-82 GS450T 1981-82 GS450TX 1981-83 GS550E 1977-79 GS550L 1979 GS750B 1977-79 GS750C 1977-79 GS750EC 1977-79 GS750EN 1977-79 GS750N 1977-79 REPLACES: 31401-45020, 31401-45030,
 
Could it potentially be that some of the 250-450 models retained the 12 pole stators through the mid-80's? The listings confirm that 80-83 GS750's (&GS550's) used a different stator than 77-79 GS550&750. This part of it we know as a confirmd fact. The compatibility with 80's 250-450 models having a 12 pole unit is uncertain in my mind still, but may be so????
 
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Ricks lists:

1977 GS750E stator p/n 20-309
1982 GS450T stator p/n 21-301

This would contradict what Caltric is saying! Bummer.

Funny how half of the Ricks' ebay listings show a photo of a 12 pole stator, but every listing is for 1980+

Unfortunately it seems the 77 - 79 stators are far less common, as the part number does not even come up in a Google search, there are none on eBay, & the Ricks website is the only source and specifies that these are rewound OEM units, & therefore there is a $50 core charge.

I hope the $50 core charge is already included in the whopping $195 price tag!!! Sheesh!
I think it's worth it to look into the Caltric 12vs18 pole info for even $145 for a Rick's 77-79!
 
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The 12 pole stators are harder to come by new. Even used ones are pricey on ebay. I'm running on a used stator (second one) that I probably paid $10 for. If you are brave, look at this one to keep you running while you find a reasonable rewind shop...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977...rcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a77c21162


Looking at stator pics on ebay,lots of 77 -79's 550 and 750 seem to have wrong stator installed- unless the rotors were changed, which is doubtful.
 
Well for used, I luckily have the Rice Paddy here in Columbus, a huge indoor & outdoor Vintage Japanese motorcycle junkyard. I was looking for reliability, so I was hoping to find several good affordable new unit options.

I am following the thread on the 2011 Polaris atv Shindengen Series style regulator/rectifier, & am hoping that this provides a $70 option for an upgrade over the standard Shunt style r/r that causes the stators to run very hot. The series style are a very new design that momentarily shuts off the r/r to regulate instead of 99% of units (shunt style) that short out the stators intermittently to get rid of the excess voltage in the form of heat.

With a series r/r, a heavy duty stator is not needed as they run much much cooler & not at max load continuously. The other options are the compufire r/r or the ce-601 thru ce-606 intended for harleys, indians, & other 3 phase american v twins. Both are $160-200 for the r/r.

Of course any shunt style r/r that regulates all 3 phases as opposed to the suzukis that leave one phase unregulated will cause far less problems to your stator. Ultimately if this shindengen r/r is a true series unit & easily can be fitted to our bikes, say byebye to most of our electrical worries for very cheap $$!
 
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I may likely just go to Rice Paddy (or ebay for cheapest $) & see about getting a 1980+ rotor with the correct number of magnets to work with a brand new Rick's unit if I have room in the budget. If not, then used it is for now!

I will have to check out her 77 GS550, as the used 1978 engine we put in it came with no stator& cover, & the Cycle Slavage place near Sandusky, OH provided another stator & cover to us. Could explain the 11.9 volts max output we are getting from her bike. I think the r/r has been a long problem w/po's judging from all the hacked&spliced wiring, missing fusebox, replaced r/r, no electrical parts mounted in stock location, etc...
 
When you get around to it, I'd be curious to know if either of your bikes already has been fitted with a 18 pole stator. I'm thinking that setup would supply some juice, just not enough to impress the R/R.

I bought some stuff at Rice Paddy- indoor and outdoor ? wow. good thing they aren't near me
 
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