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Bypass clutch safety

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My switch on the clutch handle is not always letting the bike know its pulled in, so my starter won't always kick. I'm not a complacent idiot so the heutral green light is enough. Which wires do i need to twist together to rid myself of this.

1981 GS450TX
 
pull the wires off the clutch switch. follow them back into the headlight bucket and disconnect the connectors there. then simply join the 2 wires together in the bucket.
 
Agemax said:
pull the wires off the clutch switch. follow them back into the headlight bucket and disconnect the connectors there. then simply join the 2 wires together in the bucket.
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thanks man. i figured that was all, i cannot count the safetys i have bypassed in my life but always good to check
 
for the sake of testing i snipped the wires halfway down the bars and twisted them together. Still not engaging. I was positive it was this switch because i did nothing but pull and release the clutch and after a few times it hard started.

Now im just confused.
 
ThrottleBack said:
for the sake of testing i snipped the wires halfway down the bars and twisted them together. Still not engaging. I was positive it was this switch because i did nothing but pull and release the clutch and after a few times it hard started.

Now im just confused.
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for the sake of "testing", why snip the wires when you could have simply disconnected them?
which ends of the wires are you twisting together? it should be the ones in the headlight, not the ones coming from the switch
 
I honestly didn't think it would make a difference. If you connect the wires coming from the clutch lever and never unplug the connection in the bucket it should effect the same result as disconnecting in the bucket and jumping the terminals.
 
ThrottleBack said:
I honestly didn't think it would make a difference. If you connect the wires coming from the clutch lever and never unplug the connection in the bucket it should effect the same result as disconnecting in the bucket and jumping the terminals.
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You did insulate the twist in the wires that you twisted together right? That is a hot wire when the starter button is pushed.
 
ThrottleBack said:
I honestly didn't think it would make a difference. If you connect the wires coming from the clutch lever and never unplug the connection in the bucket it should effect the same result as disconnecting in the bucket and jumping the terminals.
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yes you are correct there, i was just making sure you twisted the right wires together, the headlight side, not the lever side :)
 
I twisted them on the lever side. Since the plug in the bucket has not been touched the bike should be reading that the lever is in
 
ThrottleBack said:
I twisted them on the lever side. Since the plug in the bucket has not been touched the bike should be reading that the lever is in
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With the wires going to the lever cut, and the wires in the bucket not joined, the bike will think the lever is not pulled in.

When you connect the two wires in the bucket, you totally eliminate the lever from equation by making the bike think the lever is ALWAYS pulled in.

The signal starts in the bike, goes through the lever (but only when it's pulled) and goes back into the bike, telling it if it is safe to start or not.
 
Follow me guys. I cut the wires right before the lever and joined them. Thats the same thing as joining them in the bucket.

Just for the sake of moving forward they are now joined in the bucket, starter still not engaging.
 
ok, well in that case then it seems like the problem was not related to the clutch switch after all. once those 2 wires are joined together that is a permanent fix and will bypass any problems that you would have had with the clutch switch.

you now need to investigate further
 
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Yep. It wasn't engaging so i had kep pulling and releasing the clutch. After a bunch of times it started cranking fine. Once i realized my fuel was off it finally started but stalled. Then was not engaging again. That is when i came here and bypassed the clutch. Since that seemed likely the issue.

Any ideas? Battery is new and it was cranking strong when it engaged.
 
I read the mega welcome but in my case the bike is from the original owner and is 100% original with less then 40 miles and yearly maint records from the dealer. It musty be something simple
 
as Basscliff says, you could have an intermittent contact on the starter button, or the kill switch or the starter solenoid, or the starter motor itself.

you should start with the starter motor, check all connections are clean,secure and tight, then work your way back up to the solenoid,kill switch and starter switch
 
as the bike has been sat in a barn for years you will probably find a dead spider squished in the contacts of the starter button, or a mouse chewed through the solenoid cables haha
 
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