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Can you put tubes in any tire?

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After reading through the tube/tire thread I understand if a rim is not stamped "tubeless" you should use a tube. Can you put a tube in a tubeless tire on a rim that requires tubes? Say that 10 times fast! Thanks S.
 
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Sure, you could do that but I don't know of any advantage in doing so. The tire will run hotter if you do, which isn't good.
 
I have tubeless tires but my rims do say tubeless on them. Therefore, what is better no tube or tube.
 
I have tubeless on factory alloy rims that don't say tubeless. It works.

Basically, spokes require tubes, alloys don't, though they may want something like a sealer if they were pre-tubeless cast alloys (if that makes sense).

You can put a tube into anything, but as said it will run hotter and cut your speed allowances.
 
Pete Logan said:
I have tubeless on factory alloy rims that don't say tubeless. It works.

Basically, spokes require tubes, alloys don't, though they may want something like a sealer if they were pre-tubeless cast alloys (if that makes sense).

You can put a tube into anything, but as said it will run hotter and cut your speed allowances.
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I've tried putting my tube into a lot of things, some of which I'd rather forget.
 
What do scooters and fat girls have in common? They both are fun to ride but you wouldn't want your friends to catch you on one.
 
The other day I saw a really fat girl ON a scooter! The irony gave me laughing fits. :-D
 
stinky said:
I have tubeless tires but my rims do say tubeless on them. Therefore, what is better no tube or tube.
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Now I'm confused.
On my '83 GS650GL the rear alloy rim says "Tubeless Tire Applicable", my front alloy rim says nothing about tubeless. I installed brand new Pirelli MT66 ROUTE tires in April (no-tubes), I run them both at 28PSI, and they maintain pressure just fine. The tire-shop used whatever goo they use to put them on. Are you saying that the standard Suzuki rear wheel is designed to be tubeless while the front is designed to use a tube???:?
 
cberkeley said:
Now I'm confused.
On my '83 GS650GL the rear alloy rim says "Tubeless Tire Applicable", my front alloy rim says nothing about tubeless. I installed brand new Pirelli MT66 ROUTE tires in April (no-tubes), I run them both at 28PSI, and they maintain pressure just fine. The tire-shop used whatever goo they use to put them on. Are you saying that the standard Suzuki rear wheel is designed to be tubeless while the front is designed to use a tube???:?
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This whole thing is confusing to me too. I've got tubeless tires on rims originaly designed for tubes. The issue with tubes as I understood it when I mounted my tires without the tubes was that the issue was more about the tire than the wheel. Now it seems to be more about the wheel. I guess we'll just keep bumping this thing until it gets figured out.
 
The issue with rims marked 'Tubeless' or not is about to what extent they were tested/rated for rim porosity.

A rim marked 'Tubeless' should be good to go. A rim not marked 'Tubeless' (like mine) may or may not be acceptable to you with tubeless tires. You can certainly mount tubeless tires on it without fear - it's not a safety issue.

The issue will be the rate at which the tire loses pressure due to rim porosity.

My rims used to lose about 2lbs a week without any treatment. I now run Ultraseal in there and they are solid for the whole riding season.

I would put tubeless on there and just keep an eye on tire pressures.

Something like Ultraseal will probably fix any losses for about $25 for two tires. Personally I wouldn't run without it anyway. IMHO the tubeless + sealer combination is the most solid way to go on alloys.
 
Pete Logan said:
The issue with rims marked 'Tubeless' or not is about to what extent they were tested/rated for rim porosity.

A rim marked 'Tubeless' should be good to go. A rim not marked 'Tubeless' (like mine) may or may not be acceptable to you with tubeless tires. You can certainly mount tubeless tires on it without fear - it's not a safety issue.

The issue will be the rate at which the tire loses pressure due to rim porosity.

My rims used to lose about 2lbs a week without any treatment. I now run Ultraseal in there and they are solid for the whole riding season.

I would put tubeless on there and just keep an eye on tire pressures.

Something like Ultraseal will probably fix any losses for about $25 for two tires. Personally I wouldn't run without it anyway. IMHO the tubeless + sealer combination is the most solid way to go on alloys.
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That's been the way I've always understood this issue. Some in the know however on a recent thread say that tubeless rims have a different "lip" or "edge" on them that holds the tire more firmly in place. See http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=97588
 
Always willing to learn - especially when my neck's on the line :D

I wonder whether there is a way to find out what tire was fitted from the factory from the VIN ?
 
Most tire manufacturers recommend against using sealants in their tires and will not warrant the performance of the tires when a sealant is used. I'm not saying that it can't/shouldn't be done, but just pointing out the manufacturer's position in case of a problem.
 
Liability issue.

Over here it's good enough for the police and the blood/organ couriers - it's good enough for me :D
 
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