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Canister .. Yosh, VH or Supertrapp

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I love the sound and looks of my stock pipes on my 1983 GS1100E

But, I have wanted to try a header for a while (even if only temporary)..


I have three different 4 into 1 headers to pick from ..

Yosh 4 into 1

Vance and Hines 4 into 1

Supertrapp 4 into 1


Any opinions on which one should I use ?
 
If it were me I'd go with the Yosh. Yosh and Suzuki go together like peaches and cream.
 
I have a V&H on my '80 1100 right now and a supertrapp will arrive tomorrow. I'll try and shoot a video and post it to youtube to compare the difference. Will keep you posted.
 
send renobruce a message.he has a video with sound of his gs1000 with the v&h 4 into 1 on it and it sounds awesome.maybe he could send it to you and you can hear how it sounds.
 
You'll be able to hear how a SuperTrapp sounds on your motor at SWOKZ as there is one on my soon to be 1100ES :D


8 more days....droooooooolllll
 
I'm looking forward to you getting that beast too !!


TheCafeKid said:
You'll be able to hear how a SuperTrapp sounds on your motor at SWOKZ as there is one on my soon to be 1100ES :D


8 more days....droooooooolllll
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Is your Yosh the vintage (80's) system, or a modern canister adapted to the header? The older style are pretty rare any more. I'm thinking, if I ever need another system, with the prices of the available new 4X1's as high as they are, I will just get a modern (oval) Yosh can and adapt it to fit, like the can on Billy Rick's sharp GS700.
+ 1 for the Yosh, BTW......the V&H megaphone type sounds good too, but IMHO the meg shoulda been about 3 or 4 inches longer, so they end up closer to the rear of the bike.....at least on the 1100.:-k

Tony.
 
I've been wondering this too. Well, looking for a can for the 1000. Would like either a Supertrapp or a Yosh to put on my Kerker 4-1. The problem with the new canisters is they're either bolt on or 2" inlet. I need 2.5" inlet to fit my Kerker. Do you guys just use some exhaust adapters to go from one to the other? What does this do for flow, and how would you make it look decent?
 
rudy said:
I've been wondering this too. Well, looking for a can for the 1000. Would like either a Supertrapp or a Yosh to put on my Kerker 4-1. The problem with the new canisters is they're either bolt on or 2" inlet. I need 2.5" inlet to fit my Kerker. Do you guys just use some exhaust adapters to go from one to the other? What does this do for flow, and how would you make it look decent?
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A 2.5" to 2" reducer would hardly be noticeable on the end of the header and would do diddly to flow, since the muffler is the major bottleneck.

To TS, I vote Yosh. You can't really put anything else on a Suzuki if its available, can you?:D And they have such a lovely howl, not at all like a Kerker or Supertrapp.

Mark
 
Here is the Yosh .. I think it is older but can you tell from this bad pic ?


1983GS750EBLUE3.jpg


Mysuzyq said:
Is your Yosh the vintage (80's) system, or a modern canister adapted to the header? The older style are pretty rare any more. I'm thinking, if I ever need another system, with the prices of the available new 4X1's as high as they are, I will just get a modern (oval) Yosh can and adapt it to fit, like the can on Billy Rick's sharp GS700.
+ 1 for the Yosh, BTW......the V&H megaphone type sounds good too, but IMHO the meg shoulda been about 3 or 4 inches longer, so they end up closer to the rear of the bike.....at least on the 1100.:-k

Tony.
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The can isn't all that old, probably the series that came out just before the RS3 series. It should clean up nicely and the can will polish out.
 
MRIDDLE that must be an old pic with the snow on the ground or do you live in some freak place that already has snow?
 
Someone suggested to me recently that Supertrapp's were a better choice because you can add and remove disks to easily tune the exhaust.
 
emjay said:
Someone suggested to me recently that Supertrapp's were a better choice because you can add and remove disks to easily tune the exhaust.
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This is my understanding as well. I am anxious to see...
 
emjay said:
Someone suggested to me recently that Supertrapp's were a better choice because you can add and remove disks to easily tune the exhaust.
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I wouldn't say they are a "better" choice. They do allow you to adjust the flow through the muffler, but typically they end up quite loud by the time you have enough discs stacked on to flow decently. One way to improve the flow is to remove the inner lip on the discs with a lathe. You chuck a stack of discs in and just turn the lip off.

If you are simply looking for an OEM exhaust replacement and don't want to re-jet, then they will work OK as you just set the disc stack to mimic the stock flow level. As a performance exhaust they would be middle of the road at best, on par with the Kerker and V&H products.

I have never been a huge fan of the sound they produce, either, but they are a quality product that lasts. Just not really high performance or better than any other pipe.

I still vote for the Yosh pipe.:D


Mark
 
isleoman said:
mriddle said:
Here is the Yosh .. I think it is older but can you tell from this bad pic ?


The older ones don't have the end cap that angles down ward, but who cares. PS don't try to clean the name plate with too much force.

yosh-patena-waters-farm.jpg


From a visual stand point I like the Yosh the most. From an audible stand point and day to day driving I like whisper quite (stealth) and none of the after market units provide that capability. The best of all worlds (for me) would be a Yosh 4 into 1 collector with a Yosh slip on for when you want the sound (noise) & appearance and a plain Bandit/GSXR stock quite slip on that would fit the Yosh header for day to day driving. I can remove my slip on on the Yosh in about 2 minutes.
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Dude, that is about the sexiest thing that I've EVER seen!! I could stare at it all day! I WANT!!! I know they're hard to find, but I WANT!!!
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If you like his then you might find this interesting as well.
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Thanks ..

Do you have a pic of your 1100 wearing the quiet canister ?


isleoman said:
mriddle said:
Here is the Yosh .. I think it is older but can you tell from this bad pic ?


The older ones don't have the end cap that angles down ward, but who cares. PS don't try to clean the name plate with too much force.

yosh-patena-waters-farm.jpg


From a visual stand point I like the Yosh the most. From an audible stand point and day to day driving I like whisper quite (stealth) and none of the after market units provide that capability. The best of all worlds (for me) would be a Yosh 4 into 1 collector with a Yosh slip on for when you want the sound (noise) & appearance and a plain Bandit/GSXR stock quite slip on that would fit the Yosh header for day to day driving. I can remove my slip on on the Yosh in about 2 minutes.
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mriddle said:
Here is the Yosh .. I think it is older but can you tell from this bad pic ?


1983GS750EBLUE3.jpg
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Yup, that looks like the old Yosh system. Very nice, and as the other guys said, it will look great after a paint/polish. Check out Posplay's bike for another look at it installed on an 1100ED.
If it is too loud for your taste, I would be more than happy to buy it off you.:)

Tony.
 
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