Carburetor removal

[M.Hayes.GS450TX]

Okay I'm posting this in the Carbs section.

I'm having trouble pulling my choke cable out of the lateral mechanism. It is already unhooked but there is a 90 piece (see picture and link) that it is fed through and I can't pull it through without potentially damaging it.

Link the schematics: http://www.boulevardsuzuki.com/oemp...GS450TX_(1983)/CARBURETOR/02600001/5602600012

photo: http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx115/Mikehayesgs450/IMG_20131204_212952_zps64ce0a59.jpg

Also I'm attaching my poor man's schematic to hopefully explain what I'm talking about. I was bored at work so don't make fun of me

 

[Steve]

Can't see exactly how the cable attaches to the "choke" linkage, but it's probably rather similar to the ones on my four-cylinder bikes.

If that is so, just release the cable from the linkage and slide it up through the curved tube.

No tools necessary, just separate the two pieces that capture the end of the cable, rotate one out of the way, drop the cable tip out of the other one, then pull the cable out.

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[M.Hayes.GS450TX]

Can't see exactly how the cable attaches to the "choke" linkage, but it's probably rather similar to the ones on my four-cylinder bikes.

If that is so, just release the cable from the linkage and slide it up through the curved tube.

No tools necessary, just separate the two pieces that capture the end of the cable, rotate one out of the way, drop the cable tip out of the other one, then pull the cable out.

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Yeah it is in that curved tube. so I would unscrew the linkage shown in the photo? That will release the cable? Cause when I unscrewed the long top half and pulled the cable, this weird plastic thing around the cable pulled up through it but the cable still seemed stuck.

Thanks for the quick response.

 

[Steve]

As I mentioned, I can not see what holds the cable to the linkage. On my four-cylinder bikes, the cable slips through the tube, which is mounted to carb #3 (no threading at all), then continues to the attachment point that is in front of carb #4. Since your tube is mounted to carb #2, it must attach to the linkage rather quickly, and I can't see that in the parts fiche or your picture.

On my bikes, the attachments are U-shaped pieces that, when they slide together on the "choke" shaft, encircle the blob on the end of the cable to keep it in place.

Can you post a picture from the right side of the bike? Pretty much the same angle and distance of your first picture, but from the other side of the bike.

I don't have a close picture, but you can see the retainers on these carbs. The camera is on the engine side, so #4 is on your left. Look directly in front (toward the camera) of the inside edge of carb #4, you will see the clips that hold the end of the cable. There is a spring going to the right (across the front of carb #3) that pushes the two clips together. See if you have anything resembling this on your bike.

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[M.Hayes.GS450TX]

As I mentioned, I can not see what holds the cable to the linkage. On my four-cylinder bikes, the cable slips through the tube, which is mounted to carb #3 (no threading at all), then continues to the attachment point that is in front of carb #4. Since your tube is mounted to carb #2, it must attach to the linkage rather quickly, and I can't see that in the parts fiche or your picture.

On my bikes, the attachments are U-shaped pieces that, when they slide together on the "choke" shaft, encircle the blob on the end of the cable to keep it in place.

Can you post a picture from the right side of the bike? Pretty much the same angle and distance of your first picture, but from the other side of the bike.

I don't have a close picture, but you can see the retainers on these carbs. The camera is on the engine side, so #4 is on your left. Look directly in front (toward the camera) of the inside edge of carb #4, you will see the clips that hold the end of the cable. There is a spring going to the right (across the front of carb #3) that pushes the two clips together. See if you have anything resembling this on your bike.

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Okay, I'm at work now but when I get off later I will take a pic.

My seems exactly identical to the engineering on yours- well but only 2 carbs of course. That curved piece looks just like mine. So you can just slide it out the top? Maybe I'm just being a wussy.

 

[M.Hayes.GS450TX]

Here is a pic from the other side. *righthand side

 

[M.Hayes.GS450TX]

And another pic of the piece and the plastic tube.

Its blurry sorry

 

[hurleyman77]

Hey! Thought it'd be easier here than YouTube ;-) And I prolly ought to have an account here anyhow.

First, are you sure it's the choke cable and not the throttle?

Second, I can't really see how it ought to come apart either. Mine has a weird wrap-around thing where the cable wraps around so the bead catches in a slot.

I think Steve is right, that you need to loosen both the threaded sleeve, and the nut that it locks against. It might be that you have to take the whole bracket off with the cable still threaded through it. Not the nicest solution, but it might work ;-)

Good luck!

 

[M.Hayes.GS450TX]

Hey! Thought it'd be easier here than YouTube ;-) And I prolly ought to have an account here anyhow.

First, are you sure it's the choke cable and not the throttle?

Second, I can't really see how it ought to come apart either. Mine has a weird wrap-around thing where the cable wraps around so the bead catches in a slot.

I think Steve is right, that you need to loosen both the threaded sleeve, and the nut that it locks against. It might be that you have to take the whole bracket off with the cable still threaded through it. Not the nicest solution, but it might work ;-)

Good luck!

Awesome!


Yeah its for sure the choke for i had already removed the throttle.

I think i just have to remove the bracket. Haha whatever it can be done!

 

[mattb31daytona]

reckon you must have solved by now but same arrangement on my 550 e and removing choke is the easiest part of taking carbs off. The soldered cable end is held in place by the sprung loaded catch which applies tension and prevents it from coming unhooked from the end slot,,,,,this you must already know as tour picture just shows the soldered end near the angled feed. The cable should then simply pull out from the top - perhaps you simply need to spray a bit of wd40 to help releae - be aware of the grey plastic sleeve on the cable as it will slip over the soldered end once removed - its purpose is locating inside the angled guide to prevent the cable having metal to metal contact.

Matt

 

[M.Hayes.GS450TX]

reckon you must have solved by now but same arrangement on my 550 e and removing choke is the easiest part of taking carbs off. The soldered cable end is held in place by the sprung loaded catch which applies tension and prevents it from coming unhooked from the end slot,,,,,this you must already know as tour picture just shows the soldered end near the angled feed. The cable should then simply pull out from the top - perhaps you simply need to spray a bit of wd40 to help releae - be aware of the grey plastic sleeve on the cable as it will slip over the soldered end once removed - its purpose is locating inside the angled guide to prevent the cable having metal to metal contact.

Matt

Thanks for your reply and NO i actually have not removed it yet.

Mostly due to the - 5 degree weather in chicago recently it's been too could to go out to the bike- unfortunately.

I sprayed wd40 in there a couple of times but i swear i cannot pull the cable from that metal bracket. I could pull harder but i fear i will break something. Its driving me crazy because it seems like it will be easy-peasy pulling it out.

I especially dont want to start removing the assembly on the carbs because its too damn cold haha.

So what do you think matt? Should i just pull a little harder and spray more wd40?

Mike

 

[M.Hayes.GS450TX]

Thanks for your reply and NO i actually have not removed it yet.

Mostly due to the - 5 degree weather in chicago recently it's been too could to go out to the bike- unfortunately.

I sprayed wd40 in there a couple of times but i swear i cannot pull the cable from that metal bracket. I could pull harder but i fear i will break something. Its driving me crazy because it seems like it will be easy-peasy pulling it out.

I especially dont want to start removing the assembly on the carbs because its too damn cold haha.

So what do you think matt? Should i just pull a little harder and spray more wd40?

Mike

Wow actually maybe its because im not working around the plastic piece? Is that the resistance? Maybe i should try working the cable through more carefully.

 

[esolliday]

Thanks for the info guys. I have an 84 GS1100GKE and it has the same attachment for the choke cable end

Eric

 

[JTGS850GL]

I've seen this problem on many of the 82+ year bikes. The 90 degree metal tube has a slight distortion inside that tends to catch the end of the throttle cable as you try to pull it through. Just push and pull on the cable while doing a little twisting action and it WILL come through. Don't worry about breaking it. If it does then the cable needed to be replaced anyway. There's also a nylon sleeve inside that can catch on things. The cable will come through with the sleeve still attached to the cable and the lead bead on the end.

 

[geol]

I think you meant choke cable sir? The throttle cable wasn't in the OP's original issue.

 

[paulf]

Many years late to the party ...
@JTGS850GL​ comment above got me through while working on restoring my 1982 gs1100gk. Exactly as described and very simple in hindsight.

Just loosen the nuts around the curved piece to give some leeway to the cable, move the spring around Carb 4 to the left and press on the cable down to release.