Clutch didnt clutch and engine wouldnt start

[Guest]

So this morning I was going on a long trip with my bike, so I was up early. When I tried to start it, the bike moved forward (I had the clutch fully pulled). I couldnt get it into neutral either.

While running the starter I was able to shift (without I couldnt get it out of first). So I put it in second and waddlefooted it down a nearby decline while pressing the starter intermittently. It fired but died. I figured out the choke wasnt fully out. Then I managed to start it in scond by rolling down and pressing the starter.

Since I was able to get it out of the driveway I must havemanaged to disengadge the gear somewhat....

Then I drove around for a bit and the bike was normal. No trouble shifting, gears work, can put it in neutral. I rode more than 600km today without any trouble.

The bike was parked on an incline (front wheel higher than back wheel) and it was probably barely over freezing. It was frezing during the night.

It is always harder to start at home than when its parked in the heated work garage.

Any thoughts?

 

[Rob S.]

Any thoughts?

If you're over 40, always park on a hill.

If you were already rolling down a hill, why did you even bother with the starter? (Key on, choke on, put her in first or second and pop the clutch.)

 

[Guest]

If you're over 40, always park on a hill.

If you were already rolling down a hill, why did you even bother with the starter? (Key on, choke on, put her in first or second and pop the clutch.)

Low angle. So it was too slow, I assumed. And short hill so I wanted to not run out (then Id have to push it back up...).

Problem is I cant reverse it into the driveway (I dont think I could pull it in backwards). If I cant get it in neutral or get the clutch to disengage, Im trapped.

I will test tomorrow and see if it does the same.

 

[Grimly]

Cold clutch drag.
This is why I now use 5wXX oils.

 

[Guest]

Cold clutch drag.
This is why I now use 5wXX oils.

So I need 5w40 mineral motorcycle oil?

 

[cowboyup3371]

No you?re fine; just remember that initial couple of miles will be hard to shift but once the oil warms up it will be better.

 

[Guest]

No you’re fine; just remember that initial couple of miles will be hard to shift but once the oil warms up it will be better.

But for starting it initially, how do I get it in neutral?

I have it in first so it doesn't roll (some angle in the driveway).

 

[Rob S.]

But for starting it initially, how do I get it in neutral?

Clutch adjustment called for?

 

[Gorminrider]

Rock the bike backnforth if 1st won't disengage. It's a feature of these gearboxes, especially the 6speed I think. If the engine and drive are moving ahead, gearchanges are fine. But stopped, the "straight-cut?" gears sometimes don't seem to mesh so easily.) Just don't force it with the footlever.

If you park the bike sideways on the steep driveway, maybe you can leave it in Neutral

If you can roll the bike with clutch in, then the clutch is not the problem, but sure, check adjustment per manual is something you should do.

 

[Guest]

Rock the bike backnforth if 1st won't disengage. It's a feature of these gearboxes, especially the 6speed I think. If the engine and drive are moving ahead, gearchanges are fine. But stopped, the "straight-cut?" gears sometimes don't seem to mesh so easily.) Just don't force it with the footlever.

If you park the bike sideways on the steep driveway, maybe you can leave it in Neutral

If you can roll the bike with clutch in, then the clutch is not the problem, but sure, check adjustment per manual is something you should do.

I find it hard to rock it forth uphills. But parking sideways shouldn't be an issue. I believe mine only has 5 gears?

I stared it today and there were no issue. So I think its only when its bellow freezing, if thats true the issue will solve itself (as the temperature increase). I might just have to keep the bike in the work garage if I plan long trips (its heated so then it wont be cold.