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Cylinders 1 and 4 no spark

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My 1980 GS850GLT will only fire cylinders 2 and 3. I get no spark on 1 and 4. Suspected a bad coil. I swapped the input lead from the suspected coil and connected it to the good coil. That caused 2 and 3 not to fire. Does anyone know if this could be a points related issue? Any help with diagnosing would be appreciated. Thanks Jim
 
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I would say you have a points problem. If you did the old switchem technique then the points are what causing it in my opinion! If it was just one cylinder not firing then I would wonder but not in this case. Do you know how to set the points and all that good stuff? Larry
 
Thanks for the fast response. I have not had to deal with points on this year/model. I have a few manuals. Are the points easily replaceable as a single unit?
 
Sorry to sound ignorant but how do I check resistence? I have a friend that is more knowledgeable than me and he checked the voltage to the coil. It was extremely low compared to the "good" side coil.
 
Sorry to sound ignorant...
No such thing. only un-asked questions. :) (or have not done that yet)

you would use the same meter, but set on the resistance scale.

if you don't have a Volt Ohm Meter, I would suggest that you buy one instead of borrowing your friends, or having to wait for them to stop on by. you can find a good workable unit for less than $20 USD at harbor freight, radio shack, big box hardware stores, ect.

***come, sit a spell, learn and enjoy the company...***
 
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I have a meter. Where do I make contact with it and does bike need to be running or just Ignition switch on?
 
From what you have written, I would suspect a bad coil, If I undertand your meaning correctly.

an '80 should not have points. Possibly you have a '79, as those have points. I got a '79 850G free because the PO thought the motor was bad. It needed a condenser. My nephew has been riding it for years.
 
key off... knob on meter set to resistance 200K scale...
one lead goes into the #1 plug cap the other into the #4 plug cap.
 
Thanks for the clear and concise instructions. I will measure it in a few and post my results.
 
Could be I measured wrong but I get no reading on the meter. I used the same scale on the handlebars and got a measurement there.
 
I will do the next steps. However when I did the same resistence test on plug caps from 2 and 3, I still did not get a reading.
 
start with removing the plug caps and measuring the total resistance through the
[plug wire]-[coil secondary winding]-[plug wire] without the plug caps installed.

are you sure you had good contact with the connection(s) inside the plug caps?
 
Pretty sure. I wiggled it around to make sure I felt some of the threads inside
 
rustybronco your are the man. The resisters inside the spark plug wire ends was the problem. I changed them with small piece of brass rod and cylinders 1 and 4 now fire. Is this a permanent fix or can these be replaced with original parts.
Thanks much
 
Those resistors are for radio noise suppression only . you can keep it like it is, or replace the ends; it's your choice.

the ends are available through Z1...
 
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