timebombprod
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Does anything have to be in between the signal generator and coilpacks? Its just running straight to them
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Dynatek ignition
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timebombprod
Forum Sage
Scratch all that, somebody with old bikes was helping and didnt understand how the bike would work without having the igniter in place.
Okay so, to be up to date with what's going on, I have the dyna ignition hooked up, i have spark going to all four plugs, I am now just sorting timing.
Hoping somebody here has done the installment recent enough to know what to do.
When I'm checking timing. I am hooking up my testlight to the frame of bike to have a ground, and then placing the other end on the negative connection on the coilpack, having the mechanical timing set at full advance and opening the mechanism up all the way imitating as such. What I'm looking for is the test light to go off when the advance is fully open and then the light goes away right after the advance starts to close. Does that sound right?
Am I meant to check it on the positive sides of the coils instead?
Okay so, to be up to date with what's going on, I have the dyna ignition hooked up, i have spark going to all four plugs, I am now just sorting timing.
Hoping somebody here has done the installment recent enough to know what to do.
When I'm checking timing. I am hooking up my testlight to the frame of bike to have a ground, and then placing the other end on the negative connection on the coilpack, having the mechanical timing set at full advance and opening the mechanism up all the way imitating as such. What I'm looking for is the test light to go off when the advance is fully open and then the light goes away right after the advance starts to close. Does that sound right?
Am I meant to check it on the positive sides of the coils instead?
timebombprod
Forum Sage
Well, it seems to be working correctly, 1 and 4 spark simultaneously as does 2 and 3.
Gonna turn on tomorrow hoping for a nice constant idle and a smooth rev climb
Gonna turn on tomorrow hoping for a nice constant idle and a smooth rev climb
timebombprod
Forum Sage
If anything seems to be off, I will. I don't think I know anyone with one and they cost about $70. We will see what happens.
Yes, hopefully the misfire is gone, seems like it will be, and if that idle climb is still there, well now the bike will be able to sustain itself at idle.
timebombprod
Forum Sage
Hopefully buddy that's been helping out lately has one, his bikes are forsure old enough to need one.
timebombprod
Forum Sage
Should timing light stay on while timing is going through t and f, advance is not opened just has timing set there
Ian. Someone posted a Dynatec setup procedure for you on one of the FB pages. Might have been Suzuki GS owners Group. I have no experience with this and don’t know the guy. Could be total BS. Wish I knew more and could help. Sorry.
timebombprod
Forum Sage
All good, it reacts correctly to the fully advanced mark, but I was just curious whwhy the light stays on while going through the t and f marks
Here it is
timebombprod
Forum Sage
Just got confirmation that it's in time, time to start up.
Also that method is called static timing, it's what you do so you're able to run the bike but then you need to time more.
I had the fully advance reacting correctly I was just wondering why the light would stay on when the time was going through the T and F mark, I didnt know if something was up.
Well, time to start it up!
Also that method is called static timing, it's what you do so you're able to run the bike but then you need to time more.
I had the fully advance reacting correctly I was just wondering why the light would stay on when the time was going through the T and F mark, I didnt know if something was up.
Well, time to start it up!
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It is indeed an oil pressure sensor. I have been wanting to do this exact thing but I'm not sure they make a plate for the 650. The chain drive bikes of other displacements use a different design for their plate. The advancer is also slightly different in size so I would guess that the dyna S wont work for us. Let us know what you find out.
timebombprod
Forum Sage
Dyna S will work fine with the 650, you do have to grind part of the plate out for the oil pressure sensor to not interfere, and they give a replacement piece for the advancer. Just dealing with some other stuff right now but the dyna installation worked just fine and you can plug it up to where the ignitor used to plug into the coilpack wires, easy to time with a testlight just a bit tedious to get it on point
Sarcvicious
Forum Apprentice
Sorry to bring up an old post, but where can I find this coloured diagram? Trying to do the dyna S install on a 650-G right now.
The end of the red oil pressure switch should have a wire with a lug terminal screwed into the hole in the end of it. Wire probably green w/yellow stripe.
Yes, all of the 650 diagrams appear to be dead links. The link for the GS1100G ‘82 (color) Works and should be nearly identical with most things concerning the signal generator (pickup coil) to the ignitor to the coils (and the rest of the bike as well). Suzuki was very consistent in wiring colors and layout between models.
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Sarcvicious
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thank y?all! Trying to sort out the wiring gremlins today.
also I?m likely waaaaaaay overthinking this, but once the coils are wired, what do I do with the wires that initially went to the ignitor (I have the dyna s and the green coils in wire up).
timebombprod
Forum Sage
okay so on the original wiring setup the OEM ignition will go straight to the ignitor, and the ignitor will go to the coil wires, when you delete the ignitor you are able to wire the dyna ignition straight to the coil wires that used to plug into the ignitor.
personally if i was updating the ignition system (and i have!) i would replace the wires that ran from the ignitor to the coilpacks and also install a coil relay mod just to ensure you are always getting those 12 volts you need, i was on the phone with dyna and they said that the dyna S actually deals better with a voltage higher than 12 rather than a voltage thats under 12.
i will let you know if you do the coil relay mod you will have to undo a splice in the harness, but its well worth it if you go that route, otherwise you will have to hook power to the ignition some other way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP6GG8EYCoE here is a video of how mine is setup, i also have a 82gs650, it is a L model but the ignition system should be the same lol.
timebombprod
Forum Sage
you have a rather large quantity of 650 bikes, i cant blame you id like to get a hold of an xs650 at somepoint, but itd be chopped up and ruined.
