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Gettin doin on my gs1100 gsxr conversion

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salty_monk said:
It's usually Clip type links that cause a problem not riveted links... I just riveted mine. If done with a proper tool it should be fine.

Did you find out why yours went Jim? I'm going to carry a clip type in the rear box as a spare just in case.

Dan :)
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Great idea Dan. That's an easy one to keep around.

I used the DID chain rivet/breaker tool. That thing rules! I found one new on Ebay for $90 shipped. I already broke my MotionPro chain breaker.
 
salty_monk said:
It's usually Clip type links that cause a problem not riveted links... I just riveted mine. If done with a proper tool it should be fine.

Did you find out why yours went Jim? I'm going to carry a clip type in the rear box as a spare just in case.

Dan :)
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Dan,
It might have all be self inflicted. I carried "Get Chain tool" on my list of "things to do "right till the last minute on my build before the Shasta Trip. At the last minute i found a short bolt, beveled the end and used a 12" C clamp to peen the end of the rivet. What I did not like and still don't like is the copper color of the end of the pins. My rivets were nicely rolled back and uniform. I pressed extra hard and it would not budge. It is like there is thin material at the end to roll and the rest of the pin is solid.
Using the right tool may have helped, but the master looked fine when I was done. It still blew:-&
Jim
 
IronSheik,

Your build is coming along nicely.

We ended up with very similar brackets for the gauges.

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Like Posplayr suggested I put the angle in the bracket.
 
The six pots are fine brakes and look sexy however, the brake feel even with stainless lines wasn't perfect. 6 pots stopped the bike way better than stock brakes (night and day difference) but lacked some feel.

Now I have to admit that I use Dot 5 in my brakes so that could be part of it however, when I switched over to 98-99 GSXR 600 Tokico four pots the feel was much better even with the Dot 5.

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Not quite as sexy to look at, kinda like small breasts but hey I'm a leg man.
 
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So it seems like my chain isn't lined up too well. It's only about 2mm from the bottom of the spring as you can see in the pic and it rubs just a bit on the lower part of the frame under the swingarm. I still need to line up the wheel but this is pretty close. Maybe the 5/8" offset front sprocket wasn't the way to go?
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I had this same problem with a 5/8 530 set up , I decided to go with a 520.

Here is the before with the 530 rubbing the wheel and the frame

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Here is the 520 , tight and clean

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Lots of info and opinions about rear tire conversions on this site. The search button is your friend.
 
Yeah, I've read just about every post available on the conversion. I'm running a 520 DID ERV chain since it's the narrowest. Katman recommended the 5/8" offset and I thought I'd have room to spare with the 520. Hmmmm... Well at least now it's all together. I'll just have to see about spacers and maybe a different offset for the front. Now for some wheel/chain alignment!
 
Make sure the wheel is mounted center in the swing, Katman did my set up as well, what kind of spacing are you using on each sides of rear the wheel?
 
jwhelan65 said:
Make sure the wheel is mounted center in the swing, Katman did my set up as well, what kind of spacing are you using on each sides of rear the wheel?
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Yea, the chain alignment an only be done after you are as sure as you can be that the rear wheel is on center. For the stock GS swinger that means that wheel is centered in the swing arm and centered in the frame.

With the Bandit arm the numbers are different.

I forget what the sprocket side offset is that Katman uses for the 180/55-17 wheel with GS1100 arm (EDIT: 0.490" ; I check my notes Rob?). Then align the front and back wheel (I prefer string method) and see how far your chain in off.

It could be an optical illusion but the chain looks deflected.

People will argue, but a simple way to check the chain alignment is to put a straight edge on the tire under the chain and see how well the chain aligns with that straight edge. I used a 3 ft construction level and it worked well. In principle you can use the sprocket as well, but sprocket and wheel should be aligned.

Tone provided an alignment proceedure a while back.
 
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ironsheik said:
Yeah, I've read just about every post available on the conversion. I'm running a 520 DID ERV chain since it's the narrowest. Katman recommended the 5/8" offset and I thought I'd have room to spare with the 520. Hmmmm... Well at least now it's all together. I'll just have to see about spacers and maybe a different offset for the front. Now for some wheel/chain alignment!
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A 520 ERV is only 18.6mm wide. You should have room. What is your rear spacer sprocket side? YOu can't change the front sprocket without changing the rear spacer too if it is straight. I have done a number of these and on kats with no problems. The 530's are always tight between the frame and chain, shocks and chain tire and chain.
Also what swingarm are you using?
 
ironsheik said:
So it seems like my chain isn't lined up too well. It's only about 2mm from the bottom of the spring as you can see in the pic and it rubs just a bit on the lower part of the frame under the swingarm. I still need to line up the wheel but this is pretty close. Maybe the 5/8" offset front sprocket wasn't the way to go?
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Many bikes have extra weld 0n the underside where the chain runs. sometimes you need to grind some away.

I don't know what you were thinking but the chain won't fit with the same clearance as with the stock set up. some shocks won't even work with the 5.5 180 set up because the springs are too big. 2mm is lots of room in the conversion world.
 
Hey Rob. This is Josh in Brooklyn who bought the spacers from you for my 92 gsxr wheels in a stock gs1100 swingarm. I don't have the measurements on me for the spacers but I'll check. I'm going to play with it again on Thursday and see what can be done. I'll post results...

Josh
 
ironsheik said:
Hey Rob. This is Josh in Brooklyn who bought the spacers from you for my 92 gsxr wheels in a stock gs1100 swingarm. I don't have the measurements on me for the spacers but I'll check. I'm going to play with it again on Thursday and see what can be done. I'll post results...

Josh
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You are running the same set up I ran for a summer before I switched to the bandit arm. check the return run of the chain and see where its contacting. That's a wide looking 520. Measure the width at the pins. Should be 18.60mm. Shoot me an email and I can tell you how to get a couple more mm of room. The Chain looks pretty straight to me. You just need a mill or two more room to the left.
 
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ONe more thing.. YOu are using the stock GS sprocket carrier right? not the gsxr carrier.
 
Here is the problem with some kats Josh. Look at how far out the peg stay is from the frame tube. This will contact the chain on the return run if not removed.This can be a problem with the box steel which the motor mounts and pivot shaft go through. The welds on the inside can be a real mess.

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I too am doing this conversion and have seen maybe 520 is the way to go instead of the 530 I have now. If I purchase a 520 chain, will it work with my newly acquired 530 sprockets?
 
Katman: Will shoot an email after I get some wheel then chain alignments done. Yes, I am using the GS sprocket carrier.

Nasty: You definitely need new sprockets. Katman has the good stuff!
 
nastyjones said:
I too am doing this conversion and have seen maybe 520 is the way to go instead of the 530 I have now. If I purchase a 520 chain, will it work with my newly acquired 530 sprockets?
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520 will not work with 530 cogs. 520 is the same pitch but much narrower. YOu will need 520 sprockets.
 
So I got my wheels aligned and it looks like the rear is about 3mm to the right side which seems perfectly within tolerance (?) And the chain looks pretty spot on. What I just realized is that I failed to replace the cush drive rubber and it looks like a couple are thicker than others. This is making the chain skew from side to side as it rolls around. Hopefully I can pick these up on Monday and after bleeding the rear brake I'll be ready to ride. I still need to figure out why the Bandit speedo drive I got is too short though... It's the same length as the gsxr drive I got with my front end.

As of now:
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