Getting ready to dump in trash

[myown550]

Here ya go..and a good price per set too!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-to-198...Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6bfc9434&vxp=mtr

He's asking almost $10 for each (the Ebay seller) id rather get the new ones from the website you gave me they'll cost me the same but they'll be new
Alos i think the Ebay listing is basically what i have on mine now its not the shorter type needle that i had originally. ?

 

[myown550]

Well, that works too. Get Mikes stuff and just buy what else youll need and send them to me. I will redip them and start right from scratch. I can scrub up the bodies and get them pretty decent looking too for you. something like these..For my gs 1000 projects.

wow those are nice!

 

[chuck hahn]

Yeah I see that point..new and absolutely no questions about the needles .

 

[chuck hahn]

Believe it or not..thats about 15 MINUTES per carb body..from the typical greyish dull

 

[myown550]

Well, and here I thought he had an 81 . That's what happens to one's mind on the other side of 40 I guess... Same carbs really, but the choke/throttle setup is a bit different, and I think I prefer the 82 setup so, good!

You already know I was skeptical about the new needles you got from the dealer. I have at least one needle/seat set I can send to you, or to Chuck if you send the carbs his way - complete with one new-in-baggie Robert Barr seat O-ring! The needle shows a little ring in the light, but honestly I can't snag a nail on it or feel it at all. It was on either #1 or #2 carb, which were not fouling but did show a slight wetness sometimes on the bowl (after being parked, of course on the downhill carbs...). Like #4 that may have been an O-ring issue, but I ended up replacing them. I might have another but I'll have to wait until morning to check my other parts box.

Mike i will msg you tomorrow after i remove the carbs one more time and give them one final adjustment after that im sending them out to Chuck and just send him whatever he needs and i will take care of all expenses.

 

[chuck hahn]

I will do them and send them back...you can then put them on and see if it cures the issue. Then you and me can figure it out from there. Just slip a money order in for the amount bit costs you to send them for the return postage...fair enough?? I am gonna guess, based on my shipping experience that youll be at around 19 to 22 dollars to send them cheapest way from the post office.

 

[mike_of_bbg]

Chuck,

Part #49 on the fiche is the o-ring only, not the needle/seat set - that's part #48, which is $33/ea. @ Babbitt's. gssuzuki.com has them for about $30/set. If he can send you his old ones too, and you have a couple from me, more might not be needed. Always good to replace the o-rings though.

Boogered o-rings around the seat, or damage to the seat bores, is the same effect as having a needle that won't seat properly.

 

[chuck hahn]

Yeah 48..tired and blurry vision...LOL

 

[myown550]

I will do them and send them back...you can then put them on and see if it cures the issue. Then you and me can figure it out from there. Just slip a money order in for the amount bit costs you to send them for the return postage...fair enough?? I am gonna guess, based on my shipping experience that youll be at around 19 to 22 dollars to send them cheapest way from the post office.

it's no problem at all Chuck.

 

[myown550]

Chuck,

Part #49 on the fiche is the o-ring only, not the needle/seat set - that's part #48, which is $33/ea. @ Babbitt's. gssuzuki.com has them for about $30/set. If he can send you his old ones too, and you have a couple from me, more might not be needed. Always good to replace the o-rings though.

Boogered o-rings around the seat, or damage to the seat bores, is the same effect as having a needle that won't seat properly.

Oh it's $33 each? I knew something wasn't right But it says qty4 on the side there? Maybe that's what they recommend.

 

[mike_of_bbg]

Yeah its 4 sets if you're doing all the carbs, or $133 - more like $150 with o-rings, plus shipping. My guess is that your old sets are OK, if you were overflowing it was probably just the petcock through #2...

 

[myown550]

Yeah its 4 sets if you're doing all the carbs, or $133 - more like $150 with o-rings, plus shipping. My guess is that your old sets are OK, if you were overflowing it was probably just the petcock through #2...

I see. Ok def something to work on tomorrow.

 

[myown550]

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This is why im trying so hard to get her going

 

[myown550]

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the seat was off cause i had just washed it.

 

[mike_of_bbg]

Wow, that's a super-clean bike there!

BTW, partsnmore.com sells needle/seat combos for $8/ea (with O-rings it appears, no less!). Not sure if they're OEM or not, but Mr. Steve says he's used them and has had no problems. That's a good reference in my book!

http://www.partsnmore.com/parts/suzuki/gs550l/?filters[category]=carb&filters[fitting]=custom

There are two different models there - one for 80-82 and one for the later models.

 

[chuck hahn]

Mike...did you read the posts where he said the seats had been squished and are deformed from pulling on them with pliers? I would replace them with known good ones. I doesnt take much for the needles to hang up just a few thousands and cause carb flooding...which transfers to the engine being flooded like it is doing.

Once they get even a little out of round, the needles can jam up..even if they go in when you assemble the they still move around and twist inside the seats and can rejam themselves. Sadly the only way to fix them is to spend the money on good ones. I bet the $9.00 ones I posted from Ebay will be just fine...so he can get all 4 seat for just $36.00. You said you had an oring kit...which is like $21.00, so I can redo them for him for around $50.00 in parts and his shipping cost.

I have a ton of needles , so thats not a biggy as far as that goes..I just dont have any CV carb seats.

 

[mike_of_bbg]

I understand, Chuck. Just pointing out a cheaper alternative than the Suzuki dealer for new seats and needles, if needed. If the seat cannot seal in its bore in the carb, that's just going to bypass the needle/seat seal anyway. No others in my parts box so it looks like just one set, but you're welcome to it if needed.

 

[chuck hahn]

I thought of Oring bypass too, but he said in one post he had all new orings.

We have been thru everything that can be thought of but still there is an overflow of fuel from somewhere..and without them in hand its hard to "see" what is and isnt happening. Thats the frustrating part for me.


I agree on the stealership being a last source of good used can be had..thus my search for them on Ebay for him. I got a kick starter shaft seal locally for 5.95 for the TX project and Yamaha wanted 12.95 plus shipping costs!!

 

[myown550]

CHUCK MIKE guys i did it I DID IT!! sHE runs now oh man she runs good!! oK Hold on i'll be right back let me unplug the charger and i will tell you what i did. oh man im so excited

 

[myown550]

Guys she starts on first push!! Oh man ok so i pulled the carbs out and there's a guy that was selling parts from a low mileage 750L so i got in touch went there and he had all seats and needles in perfects shape. I even got the floats cause they were set and he said it ran perfect. Ok so i changed them with mine i left the floats as they were but i did measure the height and it was around 23-24mm +/-. Then i set the mixture to 1 3/4 out ran carb clean thru all jets again and closed them. Ok so i put them back on i try and still nothing. So then Chuck i did the auxiliary fuel feed you mentioned twice in earlier post i poured fuel down and it fired right up. Ok so now im not sure if it was the carbs or the vacuum?