Gs1100es

[Webbie1]

Hey folks....I hope this is the correct place to ask this type of general question. If not, please let me know where the correct forum would be. Anyway, I have an opportunity to but a GS1100ES (I believe it's an '83 but not positive on the year). I'm going to look at it early this week, but would like to know what I should be looking at as far as common problem areas. The bike has been sitting for a while, so I'm sure the carbs will need to be gone through and likely rebuilt. Same for tires and battery, I'm sure. What else should I look at to avoid real expensive repairs? I recall these things being pretty bulletproof, but wanted to bounce this off you GS experts here.

Thanks much!

Warner

 

[Nessism]

There isn't anything particular to worry about. The charging system often takes a dump but it's easy to fix. Just perform a normal assessment and you should be okay.

 

[850 Combat]

That was the first bike a major magazine made it into the 10 second bracket. Honda's 1100 V4 may have been bore powerful, but the 1100ES got into the 10s first. Milestone bike.

 

[Webbie1]

There isn't anything particular to worry about. The charging system often takes a dump but it's easy to fix. Just perform a normal assessment and you should be okay.

Thanks Ed....I wish I knew of a bike who's charging system DIDN'T take a dump. Seems like I do a voltage regulator on every bike that I buy. I was looking for gotcha' stuff like my 1990 CBR1000F which uses a stator that is year-specific and near impossible to find, and expensive when found. Luckily I found one on Ebay a while back and picked it up cheap "just in case". Hopefully I'll never need it, but it's pretty much the one thing that could take that bike out of commission.

Warner

 

[Webbie1]

That was the first bike a major magazine made it into the 10 second bracket. Honda's 1100 V4 may have been bore powerful, but the 1100ES got into the 10s first. Milestone bike.

Oh yeah, I remember it WELL. I graduated high school in 83 and that was the baddest bike around at the time. Iconic for sure. Just kind of stumbled across this one quite by accident....and what I consider to be CHEAP. Hoping to check it out (and pick it up!) sometime this week. I'll keep you guys posted. Couldn't be worse timing as I'm going through a divorce and already moving stuff to a storage locker, but you have to take advantage of deals when they come up, right?

Warner

 

[Nessism]

Early 1100E's would sometimes twist their crank, particularly if ridden/launched hard. The 1983 1100E engine is black and comes with a welded crank so no trouble. The early engines also had a smaller taper holding the flywheel on and sometimes those come loose too. Again, with a 1983 model year bike that won't be an issue though. Just make sure what you're getting.

 

[Webbie1]

Early 1100E's would sometimes twist their crank, particularly if ridden/launched hard. The 1983 1100E engine is black and comes with a welded crank so no trouble. The early engines also had a smaller taper holding the flywheel on and sometimes those come loose too. Again, with a 1983 model year bike that won't be an issue though. Just make sure what you're getting.

Thanks Ed....much appreciated!

Warner

 

[glib]

There have been some sweet deals out there but there have also been some funky ones?wrong motor, ?E? dressed up like an ES, etc. If you can post pics, the guys here have an eye for detail and may uncover something out of place?or confirm a good find.

 

[posplayr]

There have been some sweet deals out there but there have also been some funky ones—wrong motor, “E” dressed up like an ES, etc. If you can post pics, the guys here have an eye for detail and may uncover something out of place—or confirm a good find.

+1 (ten letters)

 

[Webbie1]

There have been some sweet deals out there but there have also been some funky ones—wrong motor, “E” dressed up like an ES, etc. If you can post pics, the guys here have an eye for detail and may uncover something out of place—or confirm a good find.

Will do......but I think this one is legit....original owner....guy pushing 60.....has a couple of bikes and some old moped (I'm going to try to buy it all if the price is right). I'll ask to see the title....that should tell the model correctly I'd think. I'll post pics one way or the other. What's the value range on these things today?

Thanks,

Warner

 

[posplayr]

Will do......but I think this one is legit....original owner....guy pushing 60.....has a couple of bikes and some old moped (I'm going to try to buy it all if the price is right). I'll ask to see the title....that should tell the model correctly I'd think. I'll post pics one way or the other. What's the value range on these things today?

Thanks,

Warner

There is only one yearGS1100ES (with fairing) but it also goes by GS1100ESD with the D standing for 1983.
There is also multi-year GS1100E but for 1983 it is GS1100ED.
The 1982 is the GS1100EZ (looks like the 83)

A true 1983 ESD will have:

Black motor (with welded crank and bigger cams, Big end crank)
83 Frame (compare the 82 and 83 foot pegs) They are different and the frames do not interchange.
ESD has Square Gauges v.s. the round ED.

 

[Webbie1]

There is only one yearGS1100ES (with fairing) but it also goes by GS1100ESD with the D standing for 1983.
There is also multi-year GS1100E but for 1983 it is GS1100ED.
The 1982 is the GS1100EZ (looks like the 83)

A true 1983 ESD will have:

Black motor (with welded crank and bigger cams, Big end crank)
83 Frame (compare the 82 and 83 foot pegs) They are different and the frames do not interchange.
ESD has Square Gauges v.s. the round ED.

Great info! Thanks again...

Warner

 

[glib]

Values have been all over the place. A nice one sold on eBay two or three years ago for $4855 but there was one on Craigslist not too far from here that was very nice but required renovation to safe riding status for $2900. One of the members here, trippivot, recently had a beauty for cheap but I think it?s sold and not sure of the price. Under $2k I think. I think the thing to remember is that the simple issues that must be done to make the bike safe and fun are still costly so that $2900 bike would have needed an easy $1,000-$1,500 in tires, brakes, brake lines, stator, R/R, suspension, and lots and lots of time. At least the ESDs are rare enough to hold their value pretty well. I?ve seen nice EDs go for shamefully low prices.

 

[Webbie1]

Values have been all over the place. A nice one sold on eBay two or three years ago for $4855 but there was one on Craigslist not too far from here that was very nice but required renovation to safe riding status for $2900. One of the members here, trippivot, recently had a beauty for cheap but I think it?s sold and not sure of the price. Under $2k I think. I think the thing to remember is that the simple issues that must be done to make the bike safe and fun are still costly so that $2900 bike would have needed an easy $1,000-$1,500 in tires, brakes, brake lines, stator, R/R, suspension, and lots and lots of time. At least the ESDs are rare enough to hold their value pretty well. I?ve seen nice EDs go for shamefully low prices.

Again, much thanks. Very helpful information. I'm really looking forward to seeing this bike.

Warner

 

[Guest]

+1 on posting pics, we can pretty much disassemble a bike with the power of our minds here.....the es is a terrific bike, not sure if I will ever be able to let mine go...

 

[Webbie1]

+1 on posting pics, we can pretty much disassemble a bike with the power of our minds here.....the es is a terrific bike, not sure if I will ever be able to let mine go...

Count on it. Thanks guys

Warner

 

[earlfor]

Early 1100E's would sometimes twist their crank, particularly if ridden/launched hard. The 1983 1100E engine is black and comes with a welded crank so no trouble. The early engines also had a smaller taper holding the flywheel on and sometimes those come loose too. Again, with a 1983 model year bike that won't be an issue though. Just make sure what you're getting.

I believe 1980 was the only year with the small crankshaft ends.

 

[posplayr]

I believe 1980 was the only year with the small crankshaft ends.

1980,1981,1982(most of)

Apparently, there are some big end welded crank 82's around near the end of the production run.

 

[Webbie1]

I got some more details on it.....going to see it on Wednesday. It IS a 1983, it's been repainted black (he said it wasn't wrecked, just repainted - he said the guy he bought it from painted all of his bikes black....and his car, and his HOUSE. And eventually shot himself - OK). He's the 2nd owner and the bike has (from his memory - it's buried in the garage so I'll get the real number hopefully on Wednesday) 26k miles on it. Not a horrible amount. He said it needs carb work and tires, both not surprising. I'm sure a battery (and chain/sprockets, fluids, etc) are also on that list. If it looks decent and everything fits when I see it in person, I'll buy it. The other bike he has in a 96 Kawasaki ZL600, and some type of moped. I'll buy them all if the price is right.


Warner

 

[Webbie1]

PS - He sent me a photo of the title....it's definitely listed as an ES on the title....