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gs850 switching to pods

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Doesn't work without PAYING someone else for a kit... :rolleyes:

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Perhaps ask these guys too...

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Eric :lol:
 
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Well, his definition of "working" and mine seem to differ greatly. He's perfectly fine with bikes that run...ok... Me I'm a little more picky. I like to have the throttle actually accelerate the bike now...rather than wait ten seconds for it to catch up. But you know, I'm weird and all.
 
Carb work is all over my head anyway.

There are people who are more than happy to do the work for an established fee and I am more than happy to pay them for it. My work was done by a local vintage cycle shop.

When it comes to a job that I can't master on my own, like this one I'd rather spend time riding than wrenching. I would have to do a lot of wrenching. I know when I'm whipped. :)

Worth every penny.
 
The CafeKid rebuilds carbs for money. ;)
So does Chef1360.
TKC is closer to you.
 
FROM AN 1980 GS850G owner who started where you are..., Pods will make your bike WAY TOO LEAN. You will need to re-jet. Since there is no stage one or two Jet kit from DynoJet for the 80 gs850g, you will either have to get a set of mains one size up, then put it all back together and see if you can dial it in... Plug chops, etc... if you can't get it dialed in, go up one more size, and re tune your mixture screws, re sync the carbs, do more plug chops, etc...

OR, get yourself a nice 4>1 exhaust to go with your pods, and just go with a dynojet Stage three kit and your dialing in will be much easier... That's the route I went. She runs good pulls strong at all RPMS, and has power that shocked me on my first dialed in run.
 
Konnick said:
Carb work is all over my head anyway.

There are people who are more than happy to do the work for an established fee and I am more than happy to pay them for it. My work was done by a local vintage cycle shop.

When it comes to a job that I can't master on my own, like this one I'd rather spend time riding than wrenching. I would have to do a lot of wrenching. I know when I'm whipped. :)

Worth every penny.
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Although I can understand and see your perspective, I think wrenching on everything about the bike makes you a better rider. Although I ask way too many dumb questions of a few people privately, I think I'm starting to understand better why my bike does certain things and sounds a certain way. I've picked up on small issues like rattles and things that shouldn't be solely because I know what's been done to the bike. Taking it to someone else to work on will not help when you're stuck on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere. That's the time when, if you'd wrenched on it, you can probably figure out the quick fix to get you home and really start working on the more permanent one.
 
cowboyup3371 said:
Although I can understand and see your perspective, I think wrenching on everything about the bike makes you a better rider. Although I ask way too many dumb questions of a few people privately, I think I'm starting to understand better why my bike does certain things and sounds a certain way. I've picked up on small issues like rattles and things that shouldn't be solely because I know what's been done to the bike. Taking it to someone else to work on will not help when you're stuck on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere. That's the time when, if you'd wrenched on it, you can probably figure out the quick fix to get you home and really start working on the more permanent one.
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I agree, I had never touched a motorcycle carb before I did mine. Folow the step by step tutorial, and the instructions for the jet kit... If I did it with good results, most people should be able to. Just don't try any shortcuts, they will kick you in the guts and make you do it all again the right way.
 
I completely understand what you are saying. For me, with this particular job, it's important that it gets done and gets done right. I do all of my own maintenance and most repairs but for THIS job, I'll leave it to the pro.

I get rare opportunities to spend a day riding, I don't want to spend very many of them in the garage trying to piece this particular process together. :)

Besides, The Director wants to be on the bike, not in the house continually asking how long it's going to take. lol
 
7981GS said:
The CafeKid rebuilds carbs for money. ;)
So does Chef1360.
TKC is closer to you.
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I rebuild em, and I'll install a jet kit for whomever, but I won't promise it won't still need some fine tuning, particularly on the needle.

Every bike is different, even compared to the same bike. I could get it in the ballpark and rideable but the perfect mix requires the bike, and I don't think he wants to ship that too. ;)
 
TheCafeKid said:
the perfect mix requires the bike, and I don't think he wants to ship that too. ;)
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You could just bring your tools over. We have a couple of spare rooms. The Director can't cook to save her life but she does have one specialty ... Pizza Hut.
 
Pod restrictors

Pod restrictors

A few weeks ago I was fueling up next to an old honda with pods on with an interesting twist! They guy had rubber restrictors on each on each pod ( he said he made them out of bicycle tubes) and he had maybe only 1 to 1/2 inches of exposed filter on each pod ( i did not pull a tape on it :)). He said it was the cheapest and fastest way for him to get the bike up and running. Bike didn't look so good but started right up and he seemed to have it well dialed in. He was running stock exhaust and no carbs mods. He said he had it running right in about an hour by moving the restrictor tubes 1/2" at a time. I had never heard of such a thing and have no experience with pods (and yes, I'll be keeping my stock airboxes) but seemed to be a reasonably sound idea. Anyone do that on their GS?
 
nejeff said:
A few weeks ago I was fueling up next to an old honda with pods on with an interesting twist! They guy had rubber restrictors on each on each pod ( he said he made them out of bicycle tubes) and he had maybe only 1 to 1/2 inches of exposed filter on each pod ( i did not pull a tape on it :)). He said it was the cheapest and fastest way for him to get the bike up and running. Bike didn't look so good but started right up and he seemed to have it well dialed in. He was running stock exhaust and no carbs mods. He said he had it running right in about an hour by moving the restrictor tubes 1/2" at a time. I had never heard of such a thing and have no experience with pods (and yes, I'll be keeping my stock airboxes) but seemed to be a reasonably sound idea. Anyone do that on their GS?
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That's cheating, but a very practical solution for ease of tuning. :p

The problem with pods is they are designed for racing applications. For street use, they let way too much air into the engine at lower and mid range rpm. You can rejet to compensate, but you're always patching up for a reduction in the ideal air/fuel ratio. Your mission is less daunting when using manual slide carbs though.

IMO, the ideal GS 850 road scenario is to use the stock airbox and modify it so that the filter is less restrictive (using low density foam) and then adding a means of of increasing air flow only when the engine needs it in the upper rpm (banging in extra holes or removing the snorkel is detrimental).

I did just that by fitted a set of reed valves to the bottom of my airbox with stiff reeds, so that they won't open until the air pressure has risen significantly, during the demands of higher rpm. The restriction and control of airflow through the airbox is required for good torque, right through the rev range. I needed to cover part of the inlet to the reed block to achieve the best results on my 850. But, what a difference to torque and HP once I got the airflow right!;)
 
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