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Hard to start after parked for longer periods of time...

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Hi, If I run my bike one day, it'll start just fine the next day, and maybe the next day after that too, but when it has been parked for many days, let's say 4-5 days or more than a week, it's really hard to start.
I put on the choke, push the start button and it will just turn, I have to try and keep starting it for several minutes before it finally catches and fires...
But when I first get it to fire it'll start first time around always! Untill I park it for many days...

So what is happening? Does the fuel evaporate from the carbs when parked for longer periods of time? It's like there is no fuel and the engine has to suck alot of air before it finally pulls in the fuel too...
 
Yes the fuel is evaporating...next round just throw it on prime for maybe 30 seconds and leave it there to start the bike. once it starts swing it back down to the on position.
 
Fuel does evaporate, but should not be that much of a problem in that short a time.

Have you done a full carb cleaning and properly set the mixture screws?

Have you adjusted the valves? Tight valves (usually the case) will cause hard starting when cold.

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But it isn't hard to start when cold(assuming it ran the day before), only when it's been parked for several days...
I rode it last wednesday and then went on a trip for the weekend with some friends. I came home monday and yesterday (tuesday) I wanted to take the bike out for a ride and the bike was hard to start. It eventually fired up and I had a long ride. If I go out to start it now it'll fire up easily but say I let it stand for a week and then try and start it it'll be hard to start again...
I have not done a full carb cleaning or adjusted mixture screws.... Valves where adjusted last fall before it was parked.
 
Have you tried using the PRIme setting on the petcock before starting the bike?

Move the lever to PRIme for about 30 seconds, then move it back to ON.
Try to start the bike. If it starts easily, that is your 'problem'.

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Don't hold open the throttle when cranking, it makes it hard to draw fuel in through the choke system. PRI is needed on my bike if it's been sitting for a few days, the gas leaves the carbs through the vent tubes.
 
I can let both my bikes sit for maybe a week or so before I have to use the PRI to fill the bowls.

I'm not saying that this isn't the problem with your bike, just throwing my 2 cents in there.:)
 
Steve said:
Have you tried using the PRIme setting on the petcock before starting the bike?

Move the lever to PRIme for about 30 seconds, then move it back to ON.
Try to start the bike. If it starts easily, that is your 'problem'.

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I haven't but I will try that next time... Maybe I should check the valves just to be sure. I have no way of knowing other than the mechanics word and we all know they can't be trusted all the time ;)

@duaneage: I'm not holding the throttle open as long as I use the choke, since the user manual states specifically that you should NOT use the throttle during cranking with choke->ON.

Does the fuel really evaporate that fast? If I have understood correctly you guys are saying my carbs/fuel bowls are empty? (maybe)
 
Priming the carbs should take care of the problem, and yes, the fuel does evaporate out of the float bowls after a week or so.

Needless to say, the valves should be checked on a scheduled interval so please don't neglect this bit of critical maintenance.
 
Is the start up enrichment circuit completely clean on all the carbs? If not it may be starving cylinders for fuel.
 
I have no idea, as said I have not done anything with the carbs since the bike is running very good. Except for this minor thing here. Carb cleanup is on the winters to-do list....
 
I have a somewhat similar behavior on my '80 GS1000G. I have rebuilt the carbs, adjusted valves and rebuilt petcock with additional filter in line. When I hit the starter, it fires for a second with a roar, then nothing as you say, forcing me to crank and crank until it catches again. Same thing as far as starting same day or day later, but give it neglect for a week and it is "cranky." I will try the prime also. I do notice a gas smell in the garage after riding, but never see overflow. It runs strong and fine when up and going. If the bowls dry out of fuel, I guess I have a small amount in the jets protected to give that inital burst then dies.
 
Have you tried the to prime it for half a minute or so and see if starting performance is better?
Sadly I haven't driven the bike as much these last months since I've been away on vacation and stuff.
Also something I noticed after I got home from vacation was that once it fired it would only just run on full choke! cylinders 1 and 4 where not firing, but once warmed up the engine was fine. I think the plugs may have some carbon fouling.
 
chuck hahn said:
Yes the fuel is evaporating...next round just throw it on prime for maybe 30 seconds and leave it there to start the bike. once it starts swing it back down to the on position.
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This works very well for me also. Just don't forget to put it back to "On"
afterwards or you may overflow your carbs if you let it sit too long with the engine off.
 
Spiff said:
Have you tried the to prime it for half a minute or so and see if starting performance is better?
Sadly I haven't driven the bike as much these last months since I've been away on vacation and stuff.
Also something I noticed after I got home from vacation was that once it fired it would only just run on full choke! cylinders 1 and 4 where not firing, but once warmed up the engine was fine. I think the plugs may have some carbon fouling.
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SO.. if you tried to take off the choke the bike would die ?? If this is the case, your pilot jets have clogged up. Time to pull the carbs and do a proper dip and re-build with new o-rings and intake o-rings. Also, after you get that done, I'd give the carbs a good syncing. :)
 
yup, it was only running at about 1000rpms, where it should be running at around 2500-3000. Exhaust pipes on number 1 and 4 where also cold compared to the two center ones. After a good ten minutes it was back to normal and I could run it without choke. As I said a cleanup is on the to-do list for the winter, it's september soon and only about a month, maybe two if i'm lucky, left of the riding season here so I'm not gonna do any thing about it now.
 
Spiff said:
As I said a cleanup is on the to-do list for the winter, it's september soon and only about a month, maybe two if i'm lucky, left of the riding season here so I'm not gonna do any thing about it now.
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This part really amuses me.

You have something that is very frustrating.

Hopefully, realize that a proper repair will just take a few days.

And you would rather fight it for up to two months rather than enjoy the last seven weeks?
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I also had/have this problem with starting. Cleaning the choke tubes and choke channels in the bowls seems to have helped, but she is still a bit finicky on a cold start (i.e., after sitting a day or so).

The first start rev for a second and then peter out happens also. Tried starting on PRI, but that didn't change things.
 
Steve said:
This part really amuses me.

You have something that is very frustrating.

Hopefully, realize that a proper repair will just take a few days.

And you would rather fight it for up to two months rather than enjoy the last seven weeks?
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Hehe, it's not THAT frustrating, if it was I would already be dismantling the bike. It just means that starting the bike takes 30-seconds to a minute extra then when it's warm. I can live with that for little while :)
Besides fixing this isn't gonna take just a few days. Me and my girlfriend both work, different shifts, we have a 1 year old son and I recently bought a Datsun Z, so there is plenty of things to keep me busy ;)
 
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