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Have a guy working on getting motor running, but...

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He is taking forever. But first off, I would like to say hi and this is my first post, It has been very difficult to find GS information but I stumbled across a whole community of us. Now...

He has just the motor of my GS450, it was not getting any spark at all. He said it needs a new R/R, but my logic tells me it would still get spark until the battery is dead. He is taking so long on actually fixing it that I am tempted to just do it myself. I am willing to replace whatever components needed to get it running. What are all the parts that control spark prior to the spark plug wires that may need replaced, and where is a good place to buy them (already got ripped off on broken parts on ebay).

Sorry for this, this has just been a frusturating project.
 
Zhamm717 said:
He is taking forever. But first off, I would like to say hi and this is my first post, It has been very difficult to find GS information but I stumbled across a whole community of us. Now...

He has just the motor of my GS450, it was not getting any spark at all. He said it needs a new R/R, but my logic tells me it would still get spark until the battery is dead. He is taking so long on actually fixing it that I am tempted to just do it myself. I am willing to replace whatever components needed to get it running. What are all the parts that control spark prior to the spark plug wires that may need replaced, and where is a good place to buy them (already got ripped off on broken parts on ebay).

Sorry for this, this has just been a frusturating project.
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R/R has nothing to do with spark, go get your bike back.
Don't know who this fellow is, but a lot of guys are clueless about anything electrical.
Do it yourself, or get a newer bike.
Parts are easy to get, Suzuki has everything for a price.
 
That's what I thought, and I am even new to bikes. Guess I will be giving him a call. But so I were to get new parts that DO have something to due with spark, what would my shopping list look like?
 
Greetings and Salutations!!

Greetings and Salutations!!

Hi Mr. Zhamm717,

But so I were to get new parts that DO have something to due with spark, what would my shopping list look like?
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The year of your bike will determine some of the parts you might need (points vs. electronic ignition). You might need coils, plug caps, igniter, etc. Check my website for a troubleshooting procedure in the Electrical Odds and Ends section. What year is your bike? You might want to put your year and model in your signature file.

I got myself a couple of manuals, and with the help of my friends here, I'm getting to be pretty good at keeping my bike running well. I'll bet you could do the same. So many mechanics are clueless when it comes to a 30 year old motorcycle. Do it yourself, take your time, do it two or three times if you have to (like I have a few times), then at least you'll know it's done right. It will be cheaper too. Now let me say "HOoooooowwDY!"

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Please click here for your mega-welcome, chock full of tips, suggestions, links to vendors, and other information. Then feel free to visit my little BikeCliff website where I've been collecting the wisdom of this generous community. Don't forget, we like pictures! Not you, your bike! :D

Thanks for joining us. Keep us informed.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
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That's what I thought, and I am even new to bikes. Guess I will be giving him a call. But so I were to get new parts that DO have something to due with spark, what would my shopping list look like?
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Once you get the bike back, you can begin to troubleshoot it. Most likely just some bad wire connection someplace, but that would be purely a guess. It's all easy stuff to understand if you have a wiring diagram.
 
tkent02 said:
Once you get the bike back, you can begin to troubleshoot it. Most likely just some bad wire connection someplace, but that would be purely a guess. It's all easy stuff to understand if you have a wiring diagram.
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Thank you very much BassCliff for that nice greeting.

And thanks, I did wire it and dont think there are any bad connections, because I did it twice checking it pretty well. Im thinking maybe a new Ignitor Unit?
 
Your getting ahead of yourself, there are a bunch of things to check before you start buying parts. Get the bike back and have a fully charged battery first then we can start to figure out what is going on with the bike, Good luck
 
lucabond said:
Your getting ahead of yourself, there are a bunch of things to check before you start buying parts. Get the bike back and have a fully charged battery first then we can start to figure out what is going on with the bike, Good luck
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I had a fully charged battery, everything wired up correctly, the motor turns over, gets gas. I hooked up an LED to the wires coming out of the CDI and got nothing, so I am confident that the problem is before the coils.
 
Zhamm717 said:
I had a fully charged battery, everything wired up correctly, the motor turns over, gets gas. I hooked up an LED to the wires coming out of the CDI and got nothing, so I am confident that the problem is before the coils.
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Did you check for battery voltage at the coils with the key on ? The cdi grounds the coils to produce the spark so those wires won't light up your led.
 
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He has just the motor of my GS450, it was not getting any spark at all. He said it needs a new R/R, but my logic tells me it would still get spark until the battery is dead. He is taking so long on actually fixing it that I am tempted to just do it myself..
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So let me get this straight; U have no spark so your "mechanic" says "it needs an R/R" and he needs to pull the motor out. :eek:

By the responsibilities vested in you by membership in GSR you are hereby compelled to go get that motor back :mad:. Don't wait for Thursday. The next thing U no he will be trying to charge U for his "professional" services :(.

I'm almost speechless; but I guess times are hard and people will say anything to make a buck$
 
No the motor wasn't even on the frame yet, they were always separate. But yea, he did say its needs an R/R.
 
I agree with the rest. GO GET YOUR ENGINE BACK !!!

With all the info here and the knowledgable people, you'll be riding in no time.

Where are you on this big blue planet ? There may be someone around the corner to lend a hand....or a wrench.:)
 
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No the motor wasn't even on the frame yet, they were always separate. But yea, he did say its needs an R/R.
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Still trying to figure out how this mechanic knows the ignition is not working becuase the R/R is not working when the motor is not even in the bike???
 
posplayr said:
Still trying to figure out how this mechanic knows the ignition is not working becuase the R/R is not working when the motor is not even in the bike???
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Maybe if the ignitor was somewhere near the engine the ignition would make sparks too.
 
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tkent02 said:
Maybe if the ignitor was somewhere near the engine it would work too.
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Well 1/2 the parts ignitor, coils, wiring harness and R/R are still on the bike. The only thing the motor has is the stator but that wont tell you is the R/R is any good.

How does he even know the ignition doesn't work much less what is wrong with it?

We seem to be operating on a lack of information or we have:
  • the number one GS Bozo mechanic :o
  • or #1 GS flim flamer :mad:
 
Just wondering did he take the coils and Cdi box too ? I hope he somehow has them grounded to the motor. Has he somehow jury riged it all together ? I would like to see that setup.
 
I woud start by putting the engine back in the frame, making sure everything is connected properly, including any ground strap or wires, then see what you have..
 
Okay I guess I should tell the rest of the story...I have the motor mounted onto a custom go kart frame with all of the electronics with it. CDI, R/R, everything that was on the bike is on the kart. No profisionals would even look at it...
 
Zhamm717 said:
Okay I guess I should tell the rest of the story...I have the motor mounted onto a custom go kart frame with all of the electronics with it. CDI, R/R, everything that was on the bike is on the kart. No profisionals would even look at it...
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What did I say......

We seem to be operating on a lack of information
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