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Heavy duty clutch cable?

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Last year my clutch would regularly slip when I twisted the throttle at high speeds so this year I orders EBC springs that are supposed to be 10% stiffer than stock.
It has stopped the disk slipping which is great but now I'm reading that the OEM clutch cable could snap/break.
I personally do not mind the extra grip needed to pull the leaver and I love the extra grip it gives the clutch plates.

Should I be worried for the clutch cable?
Does a heavy duty clutch cable exist?
Or should I get new clutch plates and revert back to the oem springs?
 
Should I be worried for the clutch cable? Yes
Does a heavy duty clutch cable exist? Not that I've seen
Or should I get new clutch plates and revert back to the oem springs? Try using just three of the six heavier springs instead. If the discs and fibres meet the service requirements, there should be no need to replace them

In what kind of shape is the clutch basket...plenty of threads on here about drag and slip, with many instances of problems tracing back to notching of the basket.
 
Sorry that you fell for the "heavy-duty springs" bit. :oops:

Most of the time (well over 90%), the only problem with a newly-slipping clutch is just the springs. Installing six new OEM springs will fix the problem and will last another 25-30 years.

Now, if you have installed a big-bore kit, some hot cams and larger carbs, you might think you might be putting out enough power to overwhelm the stock springs but consider this: Clutch springs part number 09440-19013 are used on the 450, the XN85 Turbo and the 1100GK, as well many other bikes in between.
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1980 SUZUKI GN400T - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GN400XT - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS1000GT - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS450ET - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS450LT - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS450ST - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GN400TX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GN400XX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS1000GX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS450EX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS450LX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS450SX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS450TX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS850GX - CLUTCH
1982 GS1100G - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GN400TZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS1100GKZ (Touring) - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS1100GLZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS450EZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS450LZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS450TXZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS450TZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS850GLZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS850GZ - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS1100GD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS1100GKD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS1100GLD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS450ED - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS450LD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS450TXD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS850GD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS850GLD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI XN85 (Turbo) - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI XN85 (Turbo) - CLUTCH
1984 SUZUKI GS1100GKE Touring - CLUTCH
1985 SUZUKI GS450LF - CLUTCH
1986 SUZUKI GS450LG - CLUTCH
1987 SUZUKI GS450LH - CLUTCH
1988 SUZUKI GS450LJ - CLUTCH

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The springs with number 09440-19007 that are found in your bike were also fitted to a WIDE range of bikes over the years.

1971 SUZUKI TM400 Cyclone - CLUTCH
1972 SUZUKI GT750J (Le Mans) - CLUTCH
1972 SUZUKI TM400 Cyclone - CLUTCH
1973 SUZUKI GT750K (Le Mans) - CLUTCH
1973 SUZUKI TM400K (Cyclone) - CLUTCH
1974 SUZUKI GT750L (Le Mans) - CLUTCH
1974 SUZUKI TM400L (Apache) - CLUTCH
1975 SUZUKI GT750M (Le Mans) - CLUTCH
1975 SUZUKI RE5M (Rotary) Rotary - CLUTCH
1975 SUZUKI TM400M (Apache) - CLUTCH
1976 SUZUKI GT750A (Le Mans) - CLUTCH
1976 SUZUKI RE5A (Rotary) - CLUTCH
1976 SUZUKI RM250A - CLUTCH
1976 SUZUKI RM370A - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI GS750B - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI GT750B (Le Mans) - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI PE250B - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI RM250B - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI RM370B - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI DR370C - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI GS1000C & EC - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI GS750C - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI GS750EC - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI PE250C - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI RM250C - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI RM400C - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI SP370C - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI SP370 - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI DR370N - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI GS1000LN - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI GS1000N & EN - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI GS1000SN - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI GS750EN - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI GS750LN - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI GS750N - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI PE250N - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI RM250N - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI RM400N - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS1000ET - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS1000ST - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS1100ET - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS1100LT - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS750ET - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS750LT - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI PE250T - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI RM250T - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI RM400T - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI RS250T - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS1100EX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS750EX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS750LX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI PE250X - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI RM250X - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI RM465X - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI RS250X - CLUTCH
1982 GS1100E,ES - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GN250Z - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS1100EZ & GS1100ESZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS750EZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS750TZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI RM250Z - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI RM465Z - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GN250D - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS750TD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI RM250X - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI RM500X - CLUTCH
1984 SUZUKI RM250E - CLUTCH
1984 SUZUKI RM500E - CLUTCH
1985 SUZUKI GN250F - CLUTCH
1985 SUZUKI RM250F - CLUTCH
1988 SUZUKI GN250J - CLUTCH

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Not sure what the differences are in the springs, but part number 09440-19004 for the 650s was used in these:

1969 T250 - CLUTCH
1969 T305 & TC305 - CLUTCH
1969 T350 - CLUTCH
1970 SUZUKI T350II Rebel - CLUTCH
1970 SUZUKI TS250II Hustler - CLUTCH
1971 SUZUKI T350R Rebel - CLUTCH
1971 SUZUKI TS250R Savage - CLUTCH
1972 SUZUKI GT380J (Sebring) - CLUTCH
1972 SUZUKI T350J (Rebel) - CLUTCH
1972 SUZUKI TS250J (Savage) - CLUTCH
1973 SUZUKI GT380K (Sebring) - CLUTCH
1973 SUZUKI TS250K (Savage) - CLUTCH (TS250K,L,M)
1974 SUZUKI GT380L (Sebring) - CLUTCH
1974 SUZUKI RL250L (Exacta) - CLUTCH
1974 SUZUKI TS250 (Savage) - CLUTCH (TS250K,L,M)
1975 SUZUKI GT380M (Sebring) - CLUTCH
1975 SUZUKI RL250M (Exacta) - CLUTCH
1975 SUZUKI T250M (Hustler) - CLUTCH (TS250K,L,M)
1976 SUZUKI GT250 (Hustler) - CLUTCH
1976 SUZUKI GT380 (Sebring) - CLUTCH
1976 SUZUKI TS250A (Savage) - CLUTCH (TS250A)
1977 SUZUKI GS400B - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI GS400XB - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI GS550B - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI GT250B (Hustler) - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI GT380B (Sebring) - CLUTCH
1977 SUZUKI TS250B - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI GS400C - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI GS400XC - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI GS550C - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI GS550EC - CLUTCH
1978 SUZUKI TS250C - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI GS550EN - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI GS550LN - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI GS550N - CLUTCH
1979 SUZUKI TS250 - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI DS250T - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS550LT - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI GS550T & ET - CLUTCH
1980 SUZUKI TS250T - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS550LX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS550TX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS650EX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS650GLX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI GS650GX - CLUTCH
1981 SUZUKI TS250X - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS550LZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS550MZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS650EZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS650GLZ - CLUTCH
1982 SUZUKI GS650GZ - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS550ED - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS550ES3D - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS550ESD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS550LD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS650GD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS650GLD - CLUTCH
1983 SUZUKI GS650MD - CLUTCH
1984 SUZUKI GS5500ES - CLUTCH
1985 SUZUKI GS550EF -CLUTCH
1985 SUZUKI GS550ESF - CLUTCH
1985 SUZUKI GS550LF - CLUTCH
1986 SUZUKI GS550EG - CLUTCH
1986 SUZUKI GS550ESG - CLUTCH
1986 SUZUKI GS550LG - CLUTCH

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I have to agree with Steve. My GK was slipping in the 4-6000rpm range whenever I got on it at the end of the season last year. At his recommendation, I replaced with new oem springs. That did the trick. The 30yr old ones had sagged about an eighth of an inch in length. I cannot say that I even feel the lever pull to be any harder, but now there's no sign of any slippage anymore. Also, I know that for the 1100, oem is the only way to go for clutch cable too. Absolutely!
 
BigD_83 said:
Should I be worried for the clutch cable? Yes
Does a heavy duty clutch cable exist? Not that I've seen
Or should I get new clutch plates and revert back to the oem springs? Try using just three of the six heavier springs instead. If the discs and fibres meet the service requirements, there should be no need to replace them

In what kind of shape is the clutch basket...plenty of threads on here about drag and slip, with many instances of problems tracing back to notching of the basket.
Click to expand...

I will switch 3 hd springs for 3 oem and I'll check the disks thickness.
No basket/plate notching. All is smooth.
 
If the cable is old you will be amazed with how smooth a new OEM cable feels. If your bike has lower bars than stock the clutch cable from a bike with lower bars to begin with is recommended too.
 
My bars are lower. Which cable should I buy. Do you have a model in particular?
 
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Yup. That would be the one.

Your clutch is on the same side as on the 650G. I have a Euro touring bar, which is similar to what looks to be a Daytona bar on yours, so it should work. You might have to get creative with the cable routing to make sure it doesn't bind.
 
I order the GS1000 cable and boy what a difference it makes. Smooth and precise :)
The old cable was 0.08" and the new 1980 GS1000S cable is 0.09" thick.
No more spongy feel and the constant cable adjusting. :)
 
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Nice to hear that it worked out for you.

That difference in thickness might just be the diameter change due to stretching of the old cable.
 
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