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here i go again!!

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SCIENCE BEHIND FLUID FLOW...

SCIENCE BEHIND FLUID FLOW...

Q and Nert

You are talking science - so look up these two principles

PV = nRT

and Bernoulli's Principle. (Like the perfume atomizer of victorian era)

I am not saying you are wrong. But look up these principles.

For a given mass volume of air....if squeezed into a smaller opening - air pressure will DROP and air velocity will SPEED up.

So what.

Bernoulli's Principle is what basically causes fuel to be pulled up from the carburator float bowls.

Basically, opening up the INLET of an air box (part going to the air outside) will LEAN out a bike. Why? Air boxes are restrictive or "tight". Tight means that the air box is the most restrictive part of the intake tract into the bike's engine. Remember the air box feeds multiple carburators, and at high RPM's all of the carburators are flowing their max CFM or cubic feet per minute. The INLET opening of the airbox must be able to feed 4 carburators.

Sound is (yes) why airboxes are restrictive. Another way to quiet a bike is to make the airbox volume larger.

Did you know if you make a given air box volume larger, that you may have to rejet for lean condition? Guess what...the same works for EXHAUSTS. If you make the volume of the exhaust canister larger but do not change the tailpipe opening, the bike may lean out also?. This is because the RESERVOIR of air, either in the canister or the airbox, is larger, and remember air is COMPRESSIBLE, so a larger volume is able to Absorp PEAK pressure pulses better, so the engine "thinks" the airbox or canister is LESS RESTRICTIVE.

How do I know - engineer - how else - I played with airboxes and exhaust canisters.

LASTLY - have we covered all we need to know about fluid flow and air boxes? HECK NO.

Brain Teaser: Is the volume of an air box the only thing important to affect tuning of the intake SYSTEM? Answer - NO. Intake tuning is COMPLEX stuff - not totally understood.

EARL/Q/Nert: Take a plastic liter soda bottle - fill it halfway with water and blow across the opening. You'll hear a certain pitch sound. Empty the water out, the pitch will go DOWN. Right? Larger volume, lower pitch. NOW, take the empty plastic bottle and squeeze the center of the bottle flat (pinch it in the middle). Now blow across the bottle again. What happened, the sound will get LOWER for a DECREASED VOLUME of the bottle. How can that be? Who knows the answer?

And so, airbox SHAPE, VOLUME, inlet and outlet opening sizes, shape of the inlets and outlets ALL affect air flow - otherwise known as INTAKE TUNING... TUNING and it's RESONANCE affect the ability of an intake system to flow.

Basically - that is why we just open up the air box some and rejet. The science will drive you mad. - Tony Dieter
 
I believe the answer to Tony's bottle-question is that the effective volume and shape of the bottle will affect the interference pattern of the reverberating sound waves - this in turn will affect the pressure and frequency of the sound wave exiting at the mouth of the bottle (sound is just a pressure wave).
If I'm correct, then this is perfectly analogous to the airbox. And of course any leaks would affect the exit pressure (pressure going to the carbs).
 
If you get enough pop bottles and squeeze them all differently, and get 20 guys to blow on them, you will be able to play Jingle Bells!!! Try and do that with a carb and airbox!!! Merry Christmas to all, and to all...I hope this thread will end soon :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kind regards...Craig

ps. Merry Christmas
 
pop bottles

pop bottles

Just giving notice that I will NOT be at the pop bottle blowing fest!!!!
 
Awww, not a big deal. It isnt any fun when everyone agrees all the time. :-)
Besides, no one was rushed to the O.R. with terminal consternation as a result of the discussion.

Earl heh heh

Craig said:
..I hope this thread will end soon :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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