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Intermittent Valve Train Tick 82 1100 EZ

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Got the cover off, and it turns out the outboard number one intake valve's adjuster nut had completely spun itself off. Luckily, it didn't make it's way anywhere. Doesn't look like any physical damage has occured in the top of the head, and I'm hoping it didn't get too out of whack on the adjustment. I haven't bothered to check clearances as the bike's only been cooling for four and a half hours. I think this might explain the tapping noise.
 
Turtleface said:
Got the cover off, and it turns out the outboard number one intake valve's adjuster nut had completely spun itself off. Luckily, it didn't make it's way anywhere. Doesn't look like any physical damage has occured in the top of the head, and I'm hoping it didn't get too out of whack on the adjustment. I haven't bothered to check clearances as the bike's only been cooling for four and a half hours. I think this might explain the tapping noise.
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Yup................
 
rapidray said:
Ticking noises are NOTHING! Ask Bill what melting aluminum sounds like!!! Ray.
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I'm beginning to think I'm just going to have to live with it. I went back in AGAIN, and re-adjusted the valves, as I backed them way off after find that loose nut. Ticking doesn't seem to have anything to do with that, it's still here, and it started before the nut was an issue. Bike runs better and cooler now that my valves are back in spec, and I pulled the idle back down from 1300-15. Maybe a stuck ring or some such? I'll snag a can of this SeaFoam I keep hearing about on here. What's the recommendation on using the stuff, anyways? Just dump the whole 16 ounce bottle in and that's the lot of it? Should I change oil afterwards? Etc, etc. Now, off to order cam tensioner rebuild parts. It's barely oozing oil, but it's the very last of the oil leaks, and it might not be helping this ticking problem, anyways.
 
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DO NOT dump the entire bottle of Seafoam into the crankcase!! That's WAY TOO much to use.

Mixed reaction here on the benefits of using it in the oil, but many (including myself) use it occasionally in the oil as a cleaner. Use one or two capfulls in the oil, ride the bike maybe 50-100 miles, drain & replace oil & filter.

The used oil will come out coal black, as the Seafoam has dissolved the sludge & such in your crankcase.

More common to be used in your fuel (see bottle for dilutions), it will clean your carbs & it also is a fuel stabilizer... I use it in my tank like every other two fill-ups...
 
Just be absolutely sure not to run it very long with that stuff in the oil. It breaks down the viscosity of the oil. You surely don't want to spin a rod bearing. Ask me how I know this....
 
ddaniels said:
Just be absolutely sure not to run it very long with that stuff in the oil. It breaks down the viscosity of the oil. You surely don't want to spin a rod bearing. Ask me how I know this....
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Good advice, all around. Good to know that it's useful in the gas tank, at least I won't have another bottle of chemicals laying around that I won't be able to use up. This is why I ask questions before I buy parts! :D
Ok, so the plan now, is as follows. Buy Seafoam, add to crankcase and gas tank, per recommendations. Ride her for about 50-100 miles, drain oil, change filter. Since I've got the gasket from when I thought the pan was leaking, (turned out to be the old oil cooler lines) I'll go ahead and drop the pan (looks like my 4-into-1 shouldn't get in the way for this!) and clean the pickup screen and make sure everything's looking ok in oil pump land. Fresh oil, fresh filter, and maybe the disappearance of my tick.
 
chef1366 said:
Clang clang clang clang clang
Smoke cloud
Fvck! Not again and in the middle of BFE!
:o
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I bet it was almost as loud as when a buddy of mine back in Texas snapped the output shaft on his Art Carr tranny. Looked like it had been cut with a laser, completely and utterly clean cut. Art Carr hadn't seen anything sliced like that, told him he had to be pushing 900+ ft-lbs of torque, and promptly sent him a new transmission for his trouble.

Update! Looks like someone damaged the tip of my feeler gauge at some point in time before I started looking for this tick. Picked up a new one, re-re-re-re-re-set valve clearances, and now....the tick seems to be gone. I can only assume the damaged gauge wasn't giving me a correct reading, hence the tick. Dented gauge tip=gauge is far larger than what's stamped on it. I needed an excuse to buy some proper motorcycle feelers anyways.

The plus side of all this is that I am now extremely proficient in the art of valve cover removal and gasket cleanup. First semi-major service (other than oil change and chain lube) I've done to the bike, and though I had some issues there, it was fairly successful. The important part is to not get caught in any "gumption traps". The worth of the knowledge gained from being inside that engine is far more valuable than the time lost troubleshooting problems. Going though all the possibilities in my head is a most invigorating mental exercise. Thanks for everyone's help, much appreciated.

Still going to do the Seafoam action, since I've already purchased it, oil, and a filter. Figure I may have run the engine rich or lean, depending on how the valves were set, and could probably use the carbon cleaned up.

Next up, cam tensioner, followed a new set of tires, followed by a carb cleanup, followed by a tank cleanup and reseal, followed by fork seals, followed by brake refresh, followed by a....etc etc etc.

Never have a change to get bored when owning an older bike, do you?
 
Turtleface said:
I bet it was almost as loud as when a buddy of mine back in Texas snapped the output shaft on his Art Carr tranny. Looked like it had been cut with a laser, completely and utterly clean cut. Art Carr hadn't seen anything sliced like that, told him he had to be pushing 900+ ft-lbs of torque, and promptly sent him a new transmission for his trouble.

Update! Looks like someone damaged the tip of my feeler gauge at some point in time before I started looking for this tick. Picked up a new one, re-re-re-re-re-set valve clearances, and now....the tick seems to be gone. I can only assume the damaged gauge wasn't giving me a correct reading, hence the tick. Dented gauge tip=gauge is far larger than what's stamped on it. I needed an excuse to buy some proper motorcycle feelers anyways.

The plus side of all this is that I am now extremely proficient in the art of valve cover removal and gasket cleanup. First semi-major service (other than oil change and chain lube) I've done to the bike, and though I had some issues there, it was fairly successful. The important part is to not get caught in any "gumption traps". The worth of the knowledge gained from being inside that engine is far more valuable than the time lost troubleshooting problems. Going though all the possibilities in my head is a most invigorating mental exercise. Thanks for everyone's help, much appreciated.

Still going to do the Seafoam action, since I've already purchased it, oil, and a filter. Figure I may have run the engine rich or lean, depending on how the valves were set, and could probably use the carbon cleaned up.

Next up, cam tensioner, followed a new set of tires, followed by a carb cleanup, followed by a tank cleanup and reseal, followed by fork seals, followed by brake refresh, followed by a....etc etc etc.

Never have a change to get bored when owning an older bike, do you?
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Nawp... And if you like to work on em, makes winter a little bit more bareable...:D;)
 
TheCafeKid said:
Nawp... And if you like to work on em, makes winter a little bit more bareable...:D;)
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Check my location. What winter? :D I'm going to have to pick up a second one after I get this one running perfect, make the second run perfect, and then I can take the first one off the road to start the serious work. If I keep up my current pace, I'll be putting 12k miles on each bike a year.
 
Turtleface said:
Check my location. What winter? :D I'm going to have to pick up a second one after I get this one running perfect, make the second run perfect, and then I can take the first one off the road to start the serious work. If I keep up my current pace, I'll be putting 12k miles on each bike a year.
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Not bad... I put that on my former 1100G the first 4 months after I bought it off Griffin. I rode the hell out of that thing. Didnt put quite as many miles on the GSs this year...maybe 13-15000 or so. Unfortunately, winter has come early it seems...been raining and coldish here since the middle of August :(
 
Nah, it's only terrible for about two, maybe three months. Air's nice and dry, so when you sweat it evaporates immediately, keeping you cool. So long as you're not stuck in traffic. But, that's what quality mesh jackets are for. Picked up a closeout Yoshimura jacket for thirty bucks that retailed for one-hundred forty, and it's pretty comfortable.

Back on topic for a moment, it appears that eight times it the number of times I can reuse a valve cover gasket in two weeks without it leaking. :(

At least it's not leaking on my exhaust this time, though the rolling smoke I used to get when braking hard to a stop was kinda cool at times. Like my own portable fog machine. Could make for a very cinematic effect.:dancing:
 
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