Is this a 1983 GS1100E crankshaft?

[Guest]

Hi!

Can anyone here identify this crankshaft as being the desirable 83 GS1100E just by looking at these pics? I can't because I have never examined one of these crankshafts.

I have been told that it is from an 83 (welded) but it has 492 connecting rods. I was under the impression that it would have 493 connecting rods.

Any insight would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Normand

 

[TeamDar]

83 GS1100E cranks have 492 rods, but they also have the large 29mm taper. That crank appears to have the small 25mm taper. Some of the late 82 cranks were factory welded. 493 rods only came on Katana cranks.

 

[Guest]

It looks like a small end crank to me.

 

[Guest]

I have also noticed in blown up pics that the taper for the rotor has had a hard time. This makes me wonder if I should simply pass on this one... and look for a better one (or get mine welded, etc.).

What do you think?

Thanks!

Normand

 

[Guest]

Are you racing it, building it up or just putting together a stock road bike?

 

[Guest]

Are you racing it, building it up or just putting together a stock road bike?

Not racing ... nor putting together a stock road bike.
I'm still at the "parts gathering" stage and am thinking of what to do about the crankshaft.

The engine will inherit a GSXR750 DOT head along with the matching carbs.
1150 cylinder block will be sleeved to accept 79mm pistons (to get 1294cc).
I already have a 1983 GS1100E crankshaft but was wondering if it would be a good move to purchase one already welded, etc. rather than getting mine done.
Other parts such as HD clutch basket, HD cam chain, top end oiler, etc. are also on the shelf in the garage.
Phew! ... this all adds up ... but I love it!

Thanks!

 

[gearhead13]

Your '83 1100 crank should already be welded. They welded them starting from mid '82.

 

[Guest]

Your '83 1100 crank should already be welded. They welded them starting from mid '82.

I agree ... but the crank throw located next to the primary gear has to be welded (not done at factory).
Thanks!

 

[Guest]

Yup weld that crank! What size piston pins are in those pistons you plan on using. With the 1100 crank they need to be 18mm. (not to insult)

 

[Guest]

Yup weld that crank! What size piston pins are in those pistons you plan on using. With the 1100 crank they need to be 18mm. (not to insult)

Not insulted LOL! Piston pins are 18mm.

So what do you think of that knackered taper? Is it a "show stopper"?

 

[RacingJake]

If it's not twisted I'd use it until I split the rod bearing out, I'm getting pretty good at that :-k

 

[jheurte]

Your '83 1100 crank should already be welded. They welded them starting from mid '82.

'83 1100 and '84 1150 cranks are not welded at all of the throws, and will twist and ventilate the crankcases with a connecting rod. Ask me how I know

 

[Guest]

'83 1100 and '84 1150 cranks are not welded at all of the throws, and will twist and ventilate the crankcases with a connecting rod. Ask me how I know

OK John, I'll ask.
How did you find that out?

 

[jheurte]

OK John, I'll ask.
How did you find that out?

My '83 Katana (back in 1984) with 1170 pistons, Megacycle cams, 33 smoothbores, & reinforced clutch hub. I didn't bother with the crank because it was supposedly welded and shouldn't be an issue. The bike was used for commuting, street racing, and bracket racing twice a month. all done with stock chassis (no wheeliebars) and street tires. After running it up through the gears I was going 60 mph in 5th when I felt a vibration. By the time I could pull in the clutch there was a hole in the cases and oil on the ground. A couple of weeks later we were at the dragstrip when a friend wanted me to make a pass on his '84 1150, stock except for '33's and a pipe. At the top of 3rd gear I felt the same type of vibration, with the same results. Bad enough to blow up your own motor, but it really sucks doing it to someone else's bike! Both bikes were well maintained, and although I rode the bike hard, it was not abused. Had I known that not all the throws were welded I would have had the crank welded when I was modifying the engine. Never trust the factory welded cranks, after my experiences I checked other bikes when I had the top end off, and found some that were twisted.

 

[Guest]

My '83 Katana (back in 1984) with 1170 pistons, Megacycle cams, 33 smoothbores, & reinforced clutch hub. I didn't bother with the crank because it was supposedly welded and shouldn't be an issue. The bike was used for commuting, street racing, and bracket racing twice a month. all done with stock chassis (no wheeliebars) and street tires. After running it up through the gears I was going 60 mph in 5th when I felt a vibration. By the time I could pull in the clutch there was a hole in the cases and oil on the ground. A couple of weeks later we were at the dragstrip when a friend wanted me to make a pass on his '84 1150, stock except for '33's and a pipe. At the top of 3rd gear I felt the same type of vibration, with the same results. Bad enough to blow up your own motor, but it really sucks doing it to someone else's bike! Both bikes were well maintained, and although I rode the bike hard, it was not abused.

Yikes! That hurts!

Had I known that not all the throws were welded I would have had the crank welded when I was modifying the engine.

Do you get the factory welds re-welded also, or only the throws that are not welded?

Never trust the factory welded cranks, after my experiences I checked other bikes when I had the top end off, and found some that were twisted.

Thanks for the insight!

 

[jheurte]

Yikes! That hurts!
Do you get the factory welds re-welded also, or only the throws that are not welded?
Thanks for the insight!

You would want to have the bearings checked and have it trued and balanced, so all of the throws would end up being welded (or re-welded).

 

[Guest]

It looks like a small end crank to me.

You are right! After verification, I have realized that it's a small end crank. I will therefore pass on that purchase.
Thanks!