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issues with my 1980 GS 850 with stage 3 Dynojet

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I'm having issues with my 1980 GS 850 with Dynojet stage 3 165 main jets, I've cleaned the carbs recently.

When I get to 4500-6000 RPMs it bogs down and it slowly accelerates but you can definitely feel the difference.


I have a 4 to 1 Vance & Hines exhaust with pods. I understand the bike is running too lean with the 165 main jets, my question is

would you recommend going down to stage 1 and change the main jets to 155? and based on that its just going to be a trial and error base diagnostic?

 
Im assuming stage 1 based on what this says, and how lean the bike is running at those RPMs

"STAGE 3 Dynojet Kit Fits 80-83 Suzuki GS850 8-Valve (all) Kit Includes (4) 155 Main Jets, (4) 160 Main Jets, (4) 165 Main Jets, (4) Main Air Corrector, (4) Fuel Needles, (4) Adjusting Washers, (4) E-Clips, (1) Tool, (1) Glue, (1) Screw, (1) Slide Drill, (1) Plug Drill

Information:
STAGE 1: Intended for motorcycles with a stock engine using the stock airbox, air filter and stock pipe. Stage 1 kits are fully adjustable to allow the use of a well designed aftermarket pipes and stock replacement air filters like K&N. Stage 1 kits are designed to improve throttle response and driveability and in most cases power increases of approximately 5% throughout the entire power range can be achieved.

STAGE 2: Intended for motorcycles with a stock or mildly tuned engine using a well designed aftermarket pipe with a modified airbox and a stock replacement air filter. Stage 2 kits are designed for applications where individual filters cannot be installed and for applications where airbox modification improves the engine's performance. In most cases power increases of approximately 8% can be achieved.

STAGE 3: Intended for motorcycles with stock or mildly tuned engines using a well designed aftermarket pipe and individual air filters. In most cases power increases of 10-15% can be achieved."

http://www.z1enterprises.com/ItemDetails.aspx?item=DJ3306

http://www.starcycle.com/catalog/DJ_3306.pdf
 
If you are running lean with 165s, how do you think you are going to fix it wth 155s?

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I have no idea, I figured since stock is 115 and the 165 is letting too much fuel and not burning that anything smaller than 165 would help. I'm new to motorcycles so I'm just asking for advice
 
It is possible that your petcock is not flowing enough fuel to the carburetors. Do you have an inline fuel filter between petcock and carburetors?
Have you done basic maintenance to the bike (adjusted valves, verified that timing is correct..etc)? When you cleaned the carburetors did you
take them completely apart or just spray them with carburetor cleaner?
 
It is possible that your petcock is not flowing enough fuel to the carburetors. Do you have an inline fuel filter between petcock and carburetors?
Have you done basic maintenance to the bike (adjusted valves, verified that timing is correct..etc)? When you cleaned the carburetors did you
take them completely apart or just spray them with carburetor cleaner?

Yes I adjusted the valves and checked compression on the bike, everything is in great shape, besides this issue
 
No I haven't how many turns or how do you suggest I do so?
 
neeeeedle not mixture.
the needle is in your slides.
there is grooves in the needles.
there is an e clip that snaps in the groove.
where is it now and where does dynajet say to install it?
 
i used 160 mains cant remember the the clip position, but i would start in the middle, i ended up using the stock pilot jets, with the top mixture screws 4 turns out from the bottom.
 
the snap rings out can be a mother...
i use hemo stats that i modified the tips just a little.
not much room for snap ring pliers inside of the slide..
 
I've found that a set of these does help in getting e-clip buggers out:

dVBBOT.jpg


The extended tips allow you to see the holes in the clips much easier. A real PITA when trying to use standard snap ring pliers.
 
Hey I've recently installed stage 3 on my 1980 GS850G. Does anyone know what to do with the tube that goes from the top of the engine to the airbox after installing pods (there is some exhaust coming from it. Should I make it longer so it all gets sucked up into the pods, or can I plug it so I don't have this exhaust perfuming me?)? @almarconi: Do you recommend the inline fuel filter?
 
Do not plug it, you will blow seals!

that is your crankcase vent, it prevents the case from getting pressurized. I just let mine vent to atmosphere.
 
Hey I've recently installed stage 3 on my 1980 GS850G. Does anyone know what to do with the tube that goes from the top of the engine to the airbox after installing pods (there is some exhaust coming from it. Should I make it longer so it all gets sucked up into the pods, or can I plug it so I don't have this exhaust perfuming me?)? @almarconi: Do you recommend the inline fuel filter?

Get a mini crankcase breather filter. You can find them on eBay, or most motorcycle supply sites. 3/8" inlet, washable filter like a K&N, UNI makes them, too, and some other no name companies, but I would make sure you get one that is a cloth, washable type.

You can see mine in the attached photo, right below my intake filters
 

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