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Matchless
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Stan, it usually looks worse than it is! That green box looks like a Toyota Flasher from Midas!
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Ugh... you're so keen Stan... I cleaned the outside of my harness with some diesel on a rag and called it good... I didn't fancy playing with spaghetti...
I'm sure you'll end up with a fantastic result doing it this way though
I'm sure you'll end up with a fantastic result doing it this way though
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Flyboy
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Andre, your eyes are too sharp, that's exactly what it is.
Pete, I guess now is not a good time to admit, me and wires have never seen eye to eye, it's voodoo hoodoo and all manner of things foul as far as I am concerned.
If I get to changing a plug on the toaster without the house burning down, I am doing well.
Lord only knows how I am going to get through that mess, and have everything working at the end, but have wiring diagram, and patience, will triumph.
Pete, I guess now is not a good time to admit, me and wires have never seen eye to eye, it's voodoo hoodoo and all manner of things foul as far as I am concerned.
If I get to changing a plug on the toaster without the house burning down, I am doing well.
Lord only knows how I am going to get through that mess, and have everything working at the end, but have wiring diagram, and patience, will triumph.
Flyboy, my BS o'meter just went off scale... you owe me a new needle for it! you would have owed me two of them when you said you needed to 'bin' the project and start over, but fortunately for you, that time it wasn't on...
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dfocht
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Flyboy -
What concoction are you soaking the wires in?
Thanks!
Doug
What concoction are you soaking the wires in?
Thanks!
Doug
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GateKeeper
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Quick question.....what are you going to use to wrap it all back up with....?
I find ordinary electrical tape gets hard in the cold, and very pliable in the heat, and tends to unglue itself, so is there something better, I was thinking something in a cloth type tape, but was afraid it would hold moisture.
I don't need to unwrap my harness, it's in good shape, just wanted to wrap over the existing....
Any thoughts ?
I find ordinary electrical tape gets hard in the cold, and very pliable in the heat, and tends to unglue itself, so is there something better, I was thinking something in a cloth type tape, but was afraid it would hold moisture.
I don't need to unwrap my harness, it's in good shape, just wanted to wrap over the existing....
Any thoughts ?
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Flyboy
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dfocht, nothing more advanced than plain water with Kleen Green/Simple Green, whatever the trade name is where you are, amazing stuff that.
Will let it lie in there for a week, all the gum from the old tape should be nice and soft by then, then it is just a matter if wiping them down with a cloth.
Only reason I say a week, is because that is the first chance I will get to it again, overnight should be more than enough.
GK, I know what you mean, the gum and glue on these wires is amazing and quite nasty, I personally am going to shrink sleeve it as far as possible, but it is difficult to shrink sleeve the whole thing, especially where wires branch out and away from the main harness, what I would suggest is getting enough shrink sleeving of various sizes to cover the whole harness, and slitting it down the middle with a Stanley knife, that way you can get it on everywhere, then secure in place with small tie straps/zip ties, maybe use some tape at the ends where wires branch out, getting away without using any tape is unavoidable, but you can keep it to a minimum.
Don't heat or shrink the sleeving, just use it as a sleeve/cover.
But then again, you get tape, and you get tape, the cheap stuff is nasty but the more spendy, brand name stuff tends to work well, with minimal coming loose and un gluing, try and go for 3M brand or so, drop one of the electrical gurus on here, who are in the game, like Jim or someone a PM and find out from them what they recommend.
Will let it lie in there for a week, all the gum from the old tape should be nice and soft by then, then it is just a matter if wiping them down with a cloth.
Only reason I say a week, is because that is the first chance I will get to it again, overnight should be more than enough.
GK, I know what you mean, the gum and glue on these wires is amazing and quite nasty, I personally am going to shrink sleeve it as far as possible, but it is difficult to shrink sleeve the whole thing, especially where wires branch out and away from the main harness, what I would suggest is getting enough shrink sleeving of various sizes to cover the whole harness, and slitting it down the middle with a Stanley knife, that way you can get it on everywhere, then secure in place with small tie straps/zip ties, maybe use some tape at the ends where wires branch out, getting away without using any tape is unavoidable, but you can keep it to a minimum.
Don't heat or shrink the sleeving, just use it as a sleeve/cover.
But then again, you get tape, and you get tape, the cheap stuff is nasty but the more spendy, brand name stuff tends to work well, with minimal coming loose and un gluing, try and go for 3M brand or so, drop one of the electrical gurus on here, who are in the game, like Jim or someone a PM and find out from them what they recommend.
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Sir, you've got balls to attack THAT harness all at once!
Mine was in a better condition and I still did it only a portion at a time...
Mine was in a better condition and I still did it only a portion at a time...
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brslk
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More than anything I am dreading the rewiring of the bike.
I can paint, weld etc.. but wiring is a black art to me.
Bruce.
I can paint, weld etc.. but wiring is a black art to me.
Bruce.
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Redneck
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Don't feel alone Flyboy, I think I am going your route here soon. I need to get the old wiring harness cleaned up and I think a good soaking is the best thing for the wires and the plugs. Then I might invest in a few new connectors and just redo most of the connectors, depending on budget. Simple green and water, let me know how well the goo comes off after the soak and if the connectors soaked clean.
Paul
Paul
I'm soaking mine up in the kitchen sink using the Simple Green. I'll let you know how it works but am hoping my labels don't break off too easily.
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Redneck
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Your my hero!
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Redneck
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OH Flyboy, where are you... why are you not working on your bike.... yoo hoo.... Wake up boy and get wrenching...
Paul
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Flyboy
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Sorry Paul, yeah, have not been around much the past two weeks, and must admit I have not touched a spanner or even had chance to put my nose into the garage.
Truth is, I have been working myself ragged the last few weeks, it is 1am in the morning and I have just walked into the house after having left at 6am yesterday morning, and I will be outta here in four hours time again for another 18 hour stint, and so it has been for two weeks.
So appologies for the lack of updates, but there is nothing to update, the ball of spaghetti is soaking in the Cleen green, where I left it two weeks ago, the Gixxer wheels I bought are still in the boot (trunk, for y'all on the wrong side of the Atlantic) of my car, havn't even taken them out after picking them up.
I think I should leave them there, I get to look at hem every time I open the boot to get my flight bag....will make them hard to flip though, damn, they are nice, musn't look too much.
Had a bunch of plans lined up for the new year, and they fell flat on their ass, so busy working lat out on a new bunch, in the mean time too much to pay for, the little terror has to go in to have his adanoids and tonsils remover next week, and despite me giving the thieves at medical aid over a grand a month, oh no sorry, you will have to pay in seventeen hundred bucks.....are you kidding me??? Bunch of thieving SOB's.
Oh well, it is my little one, what can I do, if it was seventeen grand, I would make a plan to find it.
End of July I got a trip over to your side of the pond to Oshkosh that needs to be funded, and a few GSR folk counting on me to show up and share lies over cold beer and a camp fire until the wee hours of the morning, I could never let my friends down, so come hell or high water, I will be there.
Gotta go shopping for my 1150EF after all...
Went to see the product manager at Pferd, the abrasives guys, and he organised me two awesome new polishing wheels to test run, thier latest fibre compound, except now I have to buy a bench polisher to mount them, like it or not. Apparently these fibre wheels will cut poor Sci's 15 hours of manual labour down to around an hour.
Anyway too tired to rant anymore, rant off.
I will try and get into the garage this weekend, and make some headway on Jennifer, so I have something to post up after the weekend, I promise, and thanks for noticing I have been missing, pretty cool.
Off to bed.....................................
Truth is, I have been working myself ragged the last few weeks, it is 1am in the morning and I have just walked into the house after having left at 6am yesterday morning, and I will be outta here in four hours time again for another 18 hour stint, and so it has been for two weeks.
So appologies for the lack of updates, but there is nothing to update, the ball of spaghetti is soaking in the Cleen green, where I left it two weeks ago, the Gixxer wheels I bought are still in the boot (trunk, for y'all on the wrong side of the Atlantic
) of my car, havn't even taken them out after picking them up.I think I should leave them there, I get to look at hem every time I open the boot to get my flight bag....will make them hard to flip though, damn, they are nice, musn't look too much.
Had a bunch of plans lined up for the new year, and they fell flat on their ass, so busy working lat out on a new bunch, in the mean time too much to pay for, the little terror has to go in to have his adanoids and tonsils remover next week, and despite me giving the thieves at medical aid over a grand a month, oh no sorry, you will have to pay in seventeen hundred bucks.....are you kidding me??? Bunch of thieving SOB's.
Oh well, it is my little one, what can I do, if it was seventeen grand, I would make a plan to find it.
End of July I got a trip over to your side of the pond to Oshkosh that needs to be funded, and a few GSR folk counting on me to show up and share lies over cold beer and a camp fire until the wee hours of the morning, I could never let my friends down, so come hell or high water, I will be there.
Gotta go shopping for my 1150EF after all...
Went to see the product manager at Pferd, the abrasives guys, and he organised me two awesome new polishing wheels to test run, thier latest fibre compound, except now I have to buy a bench polisher to mount them, like it or not. Apparently these fibre wheels will cut poor Sci's 15 hours of manual labour down to around an hour.
Anyway too tired to rant anymore, rant off.
I will try and get into the garage this weekend, and make some headway on Jennifer, so I have something to post up after the weekend, I promise, and thanks for noticing I have been missing, pretty cool.
Off to bed.....................................
the little terror has to go in to have his adanoids and tonsils remover next week, and despite me giving the thieves at medical aid over a grand a month, oh no sorry, you will have to pay in seventeen hundred bucks.....are you kidding me??? Bunch of thieving SOB's.
Oh well, it is my little one, what can I do, if it was seventeen grand, I would make a plan to find it.
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Hang in there on this one Stan. I too am wondering what's coming with Cheyenne now as we found out from her sleep study test Friday that she has obstructive sleep apnea and might need to be hooked up to a CPAP machine at night. Of course we'll want the ENT doctor to look at her as well first.
Like you've told me, keep your chin up and know it will get better.
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Flyboy
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Shame, Scott, I feel for her, obstructive sleep apnea is the most dibilitating things a person can suffer from, it leaves you like a zombie and brings with it a whole bunch of other problems like high blood pressure, slows the metobolism to a crawl, I would not wish it on my worst enemy, ask me how I know, I have suffered from it for years, and not a damn thing I can afford to do about it, I guess I will just have to wait for it to eventually kill me.
Someone who does not suffer from it can not even imagine how dibilitating it is to a person.
I know they are not cheap but the cap machine will really change her life around like she will not believe, please do it, as soon a you have the means.
There are other things you can look at that can help as well, that are less spendy, have a look at getting her fitted with an oral fitting that she wears at night, it looks just like a gum guard, that fitts over the teeth, and it holds the lower jaw forward while she sleeps, thus not allowing it to recess back and block the airway, a lot more comfortable and less bulky than the cap machine and a whole lot cheaper.
Unfortunately it did not work for me, I grind my teeth and broke three of the things before I realised it was not going to work for me.
But they have worked for a lot of people, maybe something to look into.
Someone who does not suffer from it can not even imagine how dibilitating it is to a person.
I know they are not cheap but the cap machine will really change her life around like she will not believe, please do it, as soon a you have the means.
There are other things you can look at that can help as well, that are less spendy, have a look at getting her fitted with an oral fitting that she wears at night, it looks just like a gum guard, that fitts over the teeth, and it holds the lower jaw forward while she sleeps, thus not allowing it to recess back and block the airway, a lot more comfortable and less bulky than the cap machine and a whole lot cheaper.
Unfortunately it did not work for me, I grind my teeth and broke three of the things before I realised it was not going to work for me.
But they have worked for a lot of people, maybe something to look into.
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GateKeeper
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Flyboy.....as they say it always gets better......hang tough, and the little one will like the ice cream, all he can eat......
I can help you out with the polishing wheels, I have a nice 8" bench grinder I can put them onto and try them out for you.....
I can help you out with the polishing wheels, I have a nice 8" bench grinder I can put them onto and try them out for you.....
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Redneck
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Damn Flyboy,
With hours like that I would think you have joined the military. I went through that about three weeks ago. Was at work for way to f@@@@@@ long and home way to little. Other than the bill though the operation for the little one will probably go well un-noticed. They had a clown come in and play around with my brother when he did his back in the day. He said the dude was making silly jokes while they were sedating him then, he broke a out a big air filled mallet and pretended to whack him in the head and that was the last thing he remembered, till he woke up in the recovery room and the nurse asked him what flavor of ice cream he wanted. I won' t even get started on the Insurance Company people. Good luck bro keep hanging in eventually it will come to an end. At least you get paid when you work a lot of extra hours, lol, my pay check stays the same.
Paul
With hours like that I would think you have joined the military. I went through that about three weeks ago. Was at work for way to f@@@@@@ long and home way to little. Other than the bill though the operation for the little one will probably go well un-noticed. They had a clown come in and play around with my brother when he did his back in the day. He said the dude was making silly jokes while they were sedating him then, he broke a out a big air filled mallet and pretended to whack him in the head and that was the last thing he remembered, till he woke up in the recovery room and the nurse asked him what flavor of ice cream he wanted. I won' t even get started on the Insurance Company people. Good luck bro keep hanging in eventually it will come to an end. At least you get paid when you work a lot of extra hours, lol, my pay check stays the same.
Paul
