Kiwi Canuck tries his Luck with a Six Fiddy

[Kiwi Canuck]

Moving a bike in that snow looks like work! I have one of those fairings on my 1100g and like the way it functions. Mine has a cracked screen and I would like to replace it someday. After seeing your 650e on that receiver hitch bike hauler I'm going to rethink my GS rescue methods. :xsmilie_mrgreen: Thanks for posting!

Charlie,that bike rack is rated for between 300lbs and 500lbs depending on which spec I read, the towbar tongue weight is rated at 500lbs, so I took it real slow for the ride home.

I removed about 40-50lbs off the bike so it was still north of 400lbs, so I was originally headed for my shop which was only a few KM's but thought I might as well just go for it and head home.
I did have a guy with a trailer who offered a ride if needed but that would have been Wednesday and I was getting impatient.

Probably wouldn't recommend this type of rack for a GS unless it's rated for 500lbs, it was a bit hairy driving home watching it bounce whenever I hit a small bump.

Nothing bent or was stressed on the rack so all good.

David.

 

[Kiwi Canuck]

Nothing like 450 lbs of ballast to keep those rear tires digging through the snow!

Looks like a fun project!

Thanks Ed, just hope I can do half as nice a job as you did on the GPZ.

Cheers,

David.

 

[trevor]

Thanks Ed, just hope I can do half as nice a job as you did on the GPZ.

Cheers,

David.

hey Dave, check you pm box.

 

[Kiwi Canuck]

Silver?Did it have to be a silver one?Looks like a real good place to start Dave.The fairing looks like a knock off of a Shoei FM3,it was a FM2 redesigned with lower "windwings" for bikes with lower bars.If it's fiberglass it's a Shoei,molded plastic is a knock off.Both work the same but an original is worth more.

Believe it's molded plastic so a knockoff then.

I was pleased that it was silver, it's a nice colour scheme, but looks like it has had a few bumps and scratches on the painted parts from being in the garage with gardening stuff piled on it for 30 years.

Looks like it's been just short of 30 years since it was last registered.

 

[Vmass]

Looks like a fun project, Dave. Looking forward to it!

 

[Spyder]

Nice find! Too bad you are on the other side of the continent, and the north side of the border. I would try to finagle that exhaust from you. Unfortunately it would cost more than it's worth to ship it here... :/ I love the silver, didn't know the 650's came with it... I find it baffling that someone would leave a bike sit for that long. If I remotely thought my bike might sit for half that time, may as well sell it while it's running and worth something?

 

[Kiwi Canuck]

Got a little time in the garage tonight so a few pcitures to catch up.

First off the fairing, Cafex - 90 Direction 2, not sure if it's going back on after the rebuild, probably not.



Bought some of this as I'm going to need plenty of it.



Took a while to figure out how to remove the carbs, well actually how to move the airbox back enough to give some room, I took it slowly and finally got them off.



Very few stuck bolts so far, I've broken only 2 minor things, the seat lock housing was either cracked or I broke it loosening it and one of the frame side covers that was already damaged lost a mounting post during disassembly.

I've been taking plenty of photos of the disassembly process and I'm also keeping in mind I need to take the bike out and give the engine a good cleaning prior to removing it from the frame.

I have removed the rear wheel but will pop it back in when I'm ready to go out and give the engine a good degreasing and power wash.

Also I've started a new process of reinstalling all the screws and bolts back into the threads after I remove each part then remove them once all the parts sorted and stored in the parts bins and then I bag the screws/bolts for that assembly as each section is broken down, last time I did this on the Honda CT110 it worked well once I sorted the system out.





I have quite a few parts in the Metal rescue, so I'll see how that works, as my local Canadian Tire didn't have any Evapo-Rust in stock.

I have recently purchased a parts washer and got a 20 litre drum of solvent for it so that will be nice to try out.

I placed a few orders with Parts Outlaw today, I'll be doing a few more over the weekend, nice that they reinstated the $1.50 shipping (Promo Code for GSR members is BANG)

One other thing that is strange, this bike doesn't have a stamped VIN on the headstock, (only the foil sticker on the left side) not ground off just not there.
I went to see Murray from Modern Motorcycles who sold this bike in 1984 and I asked could the frame have been replaced, he said unlikely as if the frame was bent it would have been written off, so he's just as baffled as I am.
The problem is the Foil VIN label is damaged and I can't read the VIN so hopefully ICBC can use the license plate to retrieve the VIN.

That's about all for now,

Cheers

David

 

[Kiwi Canuck]

Got a little more garage time today, engine out and a few more parts cleaned up.

The Metal Rescue seems to work well, but I did need to move it into a warm room above 20 degrees celsius (68 in US money) to get it to work.

These parts were pretty rusty, (forgot to take a before picture) and they came out quite nicely.



Gave the engine a bit of a cleanup, used some Zep Cleaner, diluted 75- 25 with water, did a bit of scraping first and then did 3-4 applications and used my electric pressure washer .



Before



After, I will need to use solvent to clean the rest as I couldn't get much more than this off.



Got the engine out this afternoon, funny how I always forget one thing and panic ensues when the engine is half out, forgot the rear mounting bracket right side, this time.

Good thing my son and his friend came by just as I was stuck so they helped remove the bracket and assisted me to place the engine on a milk crate right beside the bike, relatively easy compared to a GS1000 engine.



OK now it time for a relax and a drink.

David.

 

[Burque73]

Looks like a familiar sight! I know what you mean about the rocking back and forth on the road. I only carried an 850 a few miles on the carrier once to get the title transferred over. The engine head, carbs and air box, exhaust, brakes being removed made it a lot lighter but still I wouldn't do it again.



You're making great progress cleaning up the bike so far. Good on you for having a drink AFTER getting the engine out!

 

[Kiwi Canuck]

Looks like a familiar sight! I know what you mean about the rocking back and forth on the road. I only carried an 850 a few miles on the carrier once to get the title transferred over. The engine head, carbs and air box, exhaust, brakes being removed made it a lot lighter but still I wouldn't do it again.



You're making great progress cleaning up the bike so far. Good on you for having a drink AFTER getting the engine out!

Nice colour on that bike, never seen that before but looks good, and yes the hitch racks are most suitable for dirt bikes up to 300lbs not so good on the GS's.

 

[Kiwi Canuck]

Didn't get much done today on the bike, family stuff in the AM, snow shoveling all afternoon, finally got my driveway cleared and then shop time for the last 2 hours.

Cleaned out the fuel tank and tried to service the fuel cock, pretty stiff and almost need pliers to turn it, a little better after the service but still too stiff, will need to sort that out.

Also took a look at the carbs, almost all the screws came out without too much effort and only a couple needed the impact, but what a surprise when I opened the first bowl, holy cow, what a smell.

Here's a picture I missed from yesterday, cleaning engine in the driveway.



Here's the first carb I opened, I had to bag it in a ziplock and put it outside.






I will deal with those later, I think I'll do them outside and put them straight in the solvent tank once they are apart, never seen anything like that before, they are usually dry and crusty.

 

[bobgroger]

Kind of looks like the gas dried up and left the Sta-Bil. Does it come off easily with solvent\gas?

 

[Blue Falcon]

Didn't get much done today on the bike, family stuff in the AM, snow shoveling all afternoon, finally got my driveway cleared and then shop time for the last 2 hours.

Cleaned out the fuel tank and tried to service the fuel cock, pretty stiff and almost need pliers to turn it, a little better after the service but still too stiff, will need to sort that out.

Also took a look at the carbs, almost all the screws came out without too much effort and only a couple needed the impact, but what a surprise when I opened the first bowl, holy cow, what a smell.

Here's a picture I missed from yesterday, cleaning engine in the driveway.



Here's the first carb I opened, I had to bag it in a ziplock and put it outside.






I will deal with those later, I think I'll do them outside and put them straight in the solvent tank once they are apart, never seen anything like that before, they are usually dry and crusty.

I've had circuit boards come by me with less varnish on them....OMG. Is it really that bad?

 

[Kiwi Canuck]

Kind of looks like the gas dried up and left the Sta-Bil. Does it come off easily with solvent\gas?

Haven't tried yet.
As soon as I open it and took 2 pictures was about all I could stand, it's sticky and wet so should come off OK, it just a very toxic strong smell and I'm in the family garage were my wife keeps her car so I try to keep the smell to a low level, this would put her through the roof!!

 

[Nessism]

That gooey stuff comes off fairly easily with carb dip. Easier than the dried on stuff anyway.

 

[eil]

Nice score, I've envious. I'm pretty sure my next bike, whatever it is, will have fuel injection but I'd still trade my 850L for a 650E in a heartbeat. They look great and I have a feeling they go pretty well too.

 

[SVSooke]

Nice score, I've envious. I'm pretty sure my next bike, whatever it is, will have fuel injection but I'd still trade my 850L for a 650E in a heartbeat. They look great and I have a feeling they go pretty well too.

That's why I tried to pry it from him.My 650 was one of the nicest bikes I've owned.Light with enough power to do most anything.

 

[850 Combat]

It is amazing how different technically the 650E is from the 650G. The E is more of a traditional GS, with its roller bottom end, while the G is plain bearing like virtually everything today is. Nearly identical in looks, and fundamentally different between the cases.

I've owned three Yamaha 650 Secas. I've never ridden a GS650. I would like to compare them. The Seca had merit. Superior fit and finish to my GS's, The countershaft engine was narrow. The 8" headlight bucket is steel, and has adjusters built in. It had a built in chain lock, and a prop stand for holding the seat up. Yamaha cheaped out with ball bearing steering head bearings, where you couldn't see it.

Nice find.

 

[BigD_83]

It is amazing how different technically the 650E is from the 650G. The E is more of a traditional GS, with its roller bottom end, while the G is plain bearing like virtually everything today is. Nearly identical in looks, and fundamentally different between the cases.

I've owned three Yamaha 650 Secas. I've never ridden a GS650. I would like to compare them. The Seca had merit. Superior fit and finish to my GS's, The countershaft engine was narrow. The 8" headlight bucket is steel, and has adjusters built in. It had a built in chain lock, and a prop stand for holding the seat up. Yamaha cheaped out with ball bearing steering head bearings, where you couldn't see it.

Nice find.

You're more than welcome to try my 650G at a PNW gathering, should your work schedule line up.

 

[Kiwi Canuck]

Making some progress,

Not my favourite part of the cleanup process, cleaning the wheels, it's way more physical than expected and takes a good few hours, one down one to go.



Getting the Avon Road Rider tire on was harder than I remember, I've put a few on in the last 3-4 years but I was knackered after just this one.

BTW, no tire irons on these rims, all done by hand and the heal of my boot.