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Need help willing to pay anyone in washington pa to help me on my 1982 gs850l

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Compression tester, ha, I don't need no compression tester... I went over to Mitch's house today... I pulled out the #1 spark plug. I put my thumb over the plug hole. Nothing, no compression at all. I pulled out#4 just to get a comparison, oh yeah compression! We took off the valve cover. The #1 intake valve was tight. We put in the shim I had. It was at .004 a little loose but better than tight. We checked the compression on #1 and oh yeah compression! We put the fuel tank on, put some fuel to it. I'm hoping this thing is going to fire up... No go, it was only firing on one cylinder#2. It was getting a good spark, so I'm thinking carburetors. I didn't have time to mess with the carburetors. I told Mitch to check the forum for a carburetor repair man... One thing at a time I gess...
 
Hey Mitchell , cleaning the carbs are not that hard , read up in bikecliff , but OEM gaskets only way to go , and get your orings from cyclerings , you can buy carb dip from a auto parts ,around 20$. and take pics of it all as you take apart , so you know where thing come from and how to put back, and as you see there is a long list of real good guys on this site more then willing to help , and when you as a question show a pic of what you are asking best you can ,. good luck and let us know how you are doing with it ,
 
If, after reading through the tutorial, you still feel like it's outside your comfort zone then there are several here that do it for a very reasonable price. Chef1366 and Steve come to mind. Contact either of them and I'm sure you will get her back on the road in short order.
 
I don't use carb dip anymore. I find that boiling the carbs in water to much more effective and a lot more environmentally friendly. Use a large pot and your gas BBQ. If you do this in the kitchen your mom will kill you.

Tear them down until it's just the metal bodies, then boil them for 1 hour. What you want to do is remove all the lacquered fuel and debris in all the little passageways in the carb. The boiling water softens up that stuff and it will blow out with compressed air/carb cleaner when you're ready to re-assemble.

BTW, don't use carb cleaner on your new o-rings - it eats rubber. If you've already tried a whole can of carb cleaner on the old carbs, start over with a full re-build.

Don't reuse any o-rings or gaskets even if they look like they're fine. Find a kit that has everything included (way cheaper than trying to source all the parts).

Use a little clean engine oil on the new o-rings when you re-assemble so you don't tear or knick the new o-rings.

Use a Q-tip and some toothpaste (white paste not gel) on the float valve seat before you drop in the new float valve.

One thing I didn't quite understand the first dozen times I tried to rebuild carbs is that you're not just cleaning fuel passages, but you're sealing air passages too. Air leaks were the problem 95% of the time. All those new o-rings will help with that

If you don't have a compressor, a can of electronics cleaner with a little red straw works very well. It's great for confirming that all the passageways are clear.

Learn to sync the carbs. The bike will run like poo even if you have perfect carbs if they're not synced to each other. I built a twin carb sync tool out of clear tubing, red tranny fluid, and a 2x4. You can progressively sync one carb to the other that way. Eventually I found a real carb sync tool on craigslist.

That's all I have for now.

No shop is going to "teach you" for about 15 different reasons.

I've seen this sign more than once about shop rates:
Double the price if you watch.
Triple the price if you help.

Oh and, get a camera. We love pictures. Use your phone. Every 17yr old has a phone camera right?

We love to help. You'll be amazed at how much these guys know and are willing to share. Don't be afraid to ask 1,000,000 questions no matter how dumb you think the questions are.

I personally love to figure out the free or budget way to fix stuff. As I'm sure money is limited in your project.

Good luck,
Kevin
 
Hi guys, i have read your comments and looked at a couple different videos on the internet but it just isnt making any sence. I fully understand the valve shims because of storm64. Infact i will be replacing them my self next time but i cant get these carbs. I am willing to pay what ever if anyone is willing to come out and help me on them. Thanks
 
clutchthirty said:
Sorry to hijack, but do you split the carbs or just boil the whole rack without taking apart the throttle shaft, etc?
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If you can keep them together, then the whole rack. Might save you some sync time. My pot wasn't big enough for that option.
 
Oh, for crying out loud, its enough to make a shepherd throw down his crook and fvk his flock.
You have been given excellent advice, here and on the numerous other threads you have started on the same topic.
Forget the bloody you tube videos, and LISTEN to the advice you are being given, there is a world of knowledge here to help you, but you seem hell bent on doing your own thing your way.
There are a few good step by step tutorials here to cleaning your carbs, one which jbthomp gave you a few posts back.

Here is an excellent one done by Nessim, one of the most senior respected members here.
Full techni-colour step by step, if you can not clean your carbs with this tutorial, put your bike up for sale and get something you don't have to work on.

http://www.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage/gs/Mikuni_BS-CV_Carburetor_Rebuild_Tutorial.pdf
 
Mitch,
I can't come over... Well, I could, but it would take me 40 hours to get there.

You can do this all via this forum and pictures. You've got 1,000 people here to help you, but of those 1,000, maybe 2 are in your area.

If you don't understand it, as least for me, it helps once you take it apart. Once you have the carb rack off the bike you can either start working on it with our help or box it up and send it somewhere.

Has this bike been sitting around for years? You might just have a plugged/restricted pilot jet. It's an easy fix with the rack off the bike.

-Kevin
 
Zavallo62 said:
I am willing to pay what ever if anyone is willing to come out and help me on them. Thanks
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Pay whatever? OK. Round trip PDX to PIT is $651. You get the flight and I'll work on your bike for free.
 
The best tool you have is a digital camera or camera phone!

Tale a lot of pictures - from every angle - and close up and a bit farther off as you disassemble the carb rack.

Follow the tutorial others have linked here. Work slowly and methodically. If something is stuck - do not force it - be as patient as possible as you LEARN what things are and what they do.

If you can understand the shim process - you can understand carbs too ... Carbs are easier in my mind... but having those pictures to refer back to when you need to re-assemble the carb rack will be a valuable resource.

Water and simple green make an excellent cleaner - soak and rinse - I use it in my ultrasonic cleaner for carbs - I have carb dip - but only use it in extreme gummed up cases.

Buy the orings and the float bowl gaskets and the new screws the tutorial talks about -
Ask a lot of questions AS YOU GO - but be attentive and patient with the answers .

You CAN do this ...
 
It's really not that hard, at all. Clearing table space to work on is the hardest part for me.

Take the rack apart, that part's easy. Take one carb at a time apart, if you need it you have three others to look at to show you how to get the first one together correctly.
After the first one it's a piece of cake.
There are a couple pitfalls to avoid, but those tutorials will take care of that.
 
-Mitch, coming from a 19 year old kid that also bought a GS with 0 mechanical knowledge just 3 weeks ago...These guys know their stuff!

-I should have learned to do the carbs myself because it is the right thing to do, BUT if you REALLY want them done just right, go to the "services" section on this forum and read chef1336's post. Contact him and send him the carbs, he is awesome and will do the full o-ring kit and all for about 150, I think slightly less though.
 
So it would now appear your bike shop was pulling the wool over your eyes, by not replacing one shim, and telling you you need new piston/rings due to no compression!! "Just bring it back and we can sort it" did you take any pictures when you replaced the shim, would it not be worth returning to the shop and having it out with them, ask for a partial refund that could go towards having your carbs cleaned, if you don't feel up to it yourself.
 
Flyboy said:
Oh, for crying out loud, its enough to make a shepherd throw down his crook and fvk his flock.
You have been given excellent advice, here and on the numerous other threads you have started on the same topic.
Forget the bloody you tube videos, and LISTEN to the advice you are being given, there is a world of knowledge here to help you, but you seem hell bent on doing your own thing your way.
There are a few good step by step tutorials here to cleaning your carbs, one which jbthomp gave you a few posts back.

Here is an excellent one done by Nessim, one of the most senior respected members here.
Full techni-colour step by step, if you can not clean your carbs with this tutorial, put your bike up for sale and get something you don't have to work on.

http://www.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage/gs/Mikuni_BS-CV_Carburetor_Rebuild_Tutorial.pdf
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Listen dude you dont have to be a dick i dont want to read your sarcastic ass remarcks and stupid analogies that blow cock. If your gona post to help i appriciate it, but dont give me your bull****!
 
motokid837 said:
-Mitch, coming from a 19 year old kid that also bought a GS with 0 mechanical knowledge just 3 weeks ago...These guys know their stuff!

-I should have learned to do the carbs myself because it is the right thing to do, BUT if you REALLY want them done just right, go to the "services" section on this forum and read chef1336's post. Contact him and send him the carbs, he is awesome and will do the full o-ring kit and all for about 150, I think slightly less though.
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Ok man i really appriciate it, i will talk to him now i like these forums, but i am sick of these damn guys who are like sell it and buy something new. If i could i still wouldnt. I dont want anymore sarcatic remarks lol
 
Chris G said:
So it would now appear your bike shop was pulling the wool over your eyes, by not replacing one shim, and telling you you need new piston/rings due to no compression!! "Just bring it back and we can sort it" did you take any pictures when you replaced the shim, would it not be worth returning to the shop and having it out with them, ask for a partial refund that could go towards having your carbs cleaned, if you don't feel up to it yourself.
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I talked to them took in pictures thanks to storm64, and they gave me back half of my money. Thanks again storm64
 
Zavallo62 said:
Listen dude you dont have to be a dick i dont want to read your sarcastic ass remarcks and stupid analogies that blow cock. If your gona post to help i appriciate it, but dont give me your bull****!
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Tut, tut, sensitive little dandelion, aren't we. :D
 
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