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New member, new rider, new bike...figuring it out!

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Hello fellas,

I thought I'd make an introductory/help/build combo thread and save everybody some reading, but let me know if you prefer I do it separately. My name is Andres from Miami, FL and this is the '82 GS1100G I just bought:

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I plan on getting her on riding condition, learning how to ride safely (I've already located a MSF course close by) and then possibly modifying the bike a bit to fit my taste.

Now for the issues:

The seller had already told me that it needed some carb work as it is flooding (still started when he showed me the bike though).
After a day in my garage I noticed some oil on the floor, which seemed to be coming from the oil drain plug. After searching the forum I bought an oversize plug from my local Autozone, along with some Diesel oil and a new filter and o ring.
Now the leak is gone but the old oil had a strong smell of gas, and seemed quite diluted (at least it was clean). Could the overflowing of the carbs have caused gas to mix with the oil? or is it a sign of something worse?

When I briefly run the bike (10 seconds or less) to check the new plug for leaks, gas started spraying from the exhaust (in the bottom "H" and in the joint between the rear and front half of the exhaust) which I didn't expect. Is that also because of the flooding carbs? Seemed like a lot of gas, compared to the slow dripping I was seeing from the air filter.

Today I ordered the O ring set from cycleorings.com along with the intake O rings and fasteners, so that should take care of the carb, but I was wondering if something bigger was wrong.

I'm really glad I found this site as it has already proved invaluable.

Thanks for your help.

Andres
 
The overflowing carbs is only part of the problem. It sounds like your petcock is pouring fuel down the vacuum hose. This causes fuel in the oil and a WAY over rich mix in the number 2 cylinder. Check your #2 plug and see if it is very different from the others.

P.S- Nice find!
 
Greetings and Salutations!!

Greetings and Salutations!!

Hi Mr. scaylabs,

It sounds like you're doing your research and well on your way to having a reliable, safe machine. You'll find answers to all of these questions, and more, on my little website. For example:

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What you can't find there, you can certainly find here. Don't forget, there are technical sections for specific issues. Now let me share some GS lovin'. :D

I just stopped by to welcome you to the forum in my own, special way.
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If there's anything you'd like to know about the Suzuki GS model bikes, and most others actually, you've come to the right place. There's a lot of knowledge and experience here in the community. Come on in and let me say "HOoooowwwDY!"....
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Here is your very own magical, mystical, mythical, mind-expanding "mega-welcome". Please take notice of the "Top 10 Common Issues", "Top 15 Tips For GS Happiness", the Carb Rebuild Series, and the Stator Papers. Now let me roll out the welcome mat for you...

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Please click here for your mega-welcome, chock full of tips, suggestions, links to vendors, and other information. Then feel free to visit my little BikeCliff website where I've been collecting the wisdom of this generous community. Don't forget, we like pictures! Not you, your bike! :D

Thanks for joining us. Keep us informed.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Petcock and carb issues

Replace that bad petcock so you have oil in the crankcase, not gas
 
That was quick, thank you for your responses gentlemen!

So, I read that petcock rebuild kits are a 50/50 chance, is there a source for New OEM petcocks? Probably not too cheap..

Thank you for the special welcome BassCliff :)
 
Z1 does carry a lot of aftermarket stuff, but they can, and will. order OEM for you, too. Just call them.

BassCliff has a list of vendors on his site, with commentaries on some of them. Bike Bandit is OK for some stuff, but they tend to be second-most-expensive on their prices and are the only ones to use their own part numbering system. Everyone else uses Suzuki part numbers.

Agree, nice find on the bike, but just so you don't run into problems looking for parts, you have a GS1100GL. That "L" is important when ordering some parts.

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Try babbittsonline or partshark, they are almost always cheaper than BikeBandit. Babbitts shows it for $61 with the o-ring included.
Z1s petcocks are not the same; I prefer the OEM units that bolt right on. My first one lasted 27 years; I hope the new one lasts that long also. If Z1 can match that price on an OEM petcock I would buy from them. They are not only helpful and knowledgeable, the owner Jeff Saunders is also a member here.
And Steve is correct; I noticed you had an "L" model immediately, I was just too polite to mention it (;) to you Steve, you know I am just ribbing you). You will get used to the "L" ribbing around here, it is all in good fun.
 
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koolaid_kid said:
I noticed you had an "L" model immediately, I was just too polite to mention it (;) to you Steve, you know I am just ribbing you). You will get used to the "L" ribbing around here, it is all in good fun.
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Hey, I was politely trying to let him down gently.
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Somebody had to do it, and I'm a moving target. :p
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Haha, I see how things are going to be around here ;) That's OK though, I'm more of a "L" type (cruiser) guy anyway. BTW, any other difference between the GL and G besides the stepped seat and handlebars?

Thanks for the advice on the suppliers Koolaid and Steve, I'll contact Z1 and see what they quote me on a OEM unit.
 
Hey welcome to the slightly off-tilt club of GS owners. I'm also an "L" owner (Luxury Model, BTW), but mine rubbed up against a "G" that I bought as a parts bike and some of it rubbed off on my 'L".:D Looks like you found a nice bike there with a lot of promise. Once you cure the petcock and carb problems things will get better, especially once you do the valve shims as well. These bikes used to be a well kept secret, and now it's getting out......:eek:
 
The "cruiser" look with an inline 4 is fine for some, we really won't hold it against you. Different strokes, after all.
There are other differences - the leading axle forks, smaller rear wheel diameter, smaller fuel tank to name a few. But the core is still a GS, good machines for the day.
 
koolaid_kid said:
The "cruiser" look with an inline 4 is fine for some, we really won't hold it against you. Different strokes, after all.
There are other differences - the leading axle forks, smaller rear wheel diameter, smaller fuel tank to name a few. But the core is still a GS, good machines for the day.
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Actually, mine doesn't have a smaller rear wheel, being an '80 model it came out with the 17" rear wheel, same as the '81 "G" parts bike I've got.
 
koolaid_kid said:
The "cruiser" look with an inline 4 is fine for some, we really won't hold it against you. Different strokes, after all.
There are other differences - the leading axle forks, smaller rear wheel diameter, smaller fuel tank to name a few. But the core is still a GS, good machines for the day.
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Don't forget different bodywork, chrome fenders (no storage under the missing duck tail), smaller chrome headlight bucket, and some minor differences in the wiring harness. Oh, and handlebars that hurt my wrists.

But that's all styling. It's still fun to get out in the twisties. :twistedevil:
 
Update

Update

Well, finally got some time this weekend to mess with the bike.
First I removed the tank, and lo and behold, there comes a nice squirt of gas out of the vacuum tube. And there go my $65 for a new OEM petcock ;). At least, like koolaid said, I'll be hoping for another 28 years of service out of it.

Carbs are out, #1 is already in the dip. @$#! air jet wouldn't come out and the slot is gone so I guess it has become a permanent fixture of the carb body.
#2 is coming apart tonight hopefully, and replacing #1 in the dip.

Intake boots need replacing. #1 and 4 are out but a screw snapped on 4, will be testing the drilling/left handed thread method over the weekend. #2 and 3 are still fighting me, will be buying an Impact Driver today (if I had known these existed and were $10 I would have spent a lot less time swearing on Saturday).

3 out of 8 screws holding the exhaust to the engine are missing, I hope they are not broken off.
 
scaylabs said:
Carbs are out, #1 is already in the dip. @$#! air jet wouldn't come out and the slot is gone so I guess it has become a permanent fixture of the carb body.
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Not so.
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You have a Dremel rotary tool with a large-diameter cut-off wheel? (Doesn't everybody?)

Cut a slot down the length of the tower and cut a new slot in the top of the IDLE MIXTURE ADJUSTMENT SCREW (it's NOT an "air screw"), then use a GOOD screwdriver to remove it. If you don't remove it, the o-ring that is now being dissolved around the screw will block passages and give you fits down the road (if you ever make it to the road).

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Yeah, I saw your Idle screw removal post when searching on how to remove this stuck air jet, but unfortunately we are talking about different things. I'm calling it an "air jet" because that's what the rebuild guide calls it, but it might be wrong.

Here's what I'm talking about (from the guide):

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DanTheMan said:
Hey welcome to the slightly off-tilt club of GS owners. I'm also an "L" owner (Luxury Model, BTW), but mine rubbed up against a "G" that I bought as a parts bike and some of it rubbed off on my 'L".:D Looks like you found a nice bike there with a lot of promise. Once you cure the petcock and carb problems things will get better, especially once you do the valve shims as well. These bikes used to be a well kept secret, and now it's getting out......:eek:
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And all this time I thought the "L" stood for Ladies model....:D:D still nice looking bike though
 
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