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New Owner needs Help!

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your symptoms sound like a classic case of gummy carbs from sitting, regardless of what the previous owner claims.
 
excellent! Thanks for the read. I think I'll have an interesting week with me bike. Thanks

I'll let you know how it goes...in a few days!
 
Need new ignition coil

Need new ignition coil

Ok, after a week of work and I have a new problem.

I need (atleast) one new ignition coil for my #2 and #3 plugs.

I would like to go ahead and either change out both of them or upgrade to a new ignition coil system. I just don't know what type of upgraded system to look at.

Or should I try to repair? the ones I have...if that's even possible?

Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated...
 
Hi,

The green Dynatek coils (3 ohm) are the hot upgrade around here. Those and a new set of wires and plug caps would be beneficial. They are available at Z1Enterprises.com and a host of other aftermarket vendors.




Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Excellent recommendation...thank you.

I already have them in my shopping cart for ordering, but I have one more question...

What type of wires should I order with them...
the Black 7mm copper core wires or
the Black 7mm suppression core wires or
the Grey 8mm suppression core wires?

They are all the same price ($17.00), I just want the best system for my bike.

By the way...thank you again for all your help!
 
Octain,

One wire is broke off the plug cap and the other wires are dry rotted and cracked.

Thanks.
 
brian said:
Octain,

One wire is broke off the plug cap and the other wires are dry rotted and cracked.

Thanks.
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You dont need new coils, you need new wires. They can be replaced independently of the coils.
 
how?

Cutting and splicing? The old one's are one piece. Is it possible to change the entire wire (even inside the plastic casing)?

I was kind of liking the new system, for the simple reason that it allows you replace individual parts later instead of the entire ignition coil system.

Thanks for you time.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the old wires can be removed from the old coils. They look like they are one piece but other forum members have had luck chipping away at the glue and pulling them out. There is a spike that they push onto and you can simply epoxy new ones in.
 
Adler said:
If I'm not mistaken, the old wires can be removed from the old coils. They look like they are one piece but other forum members have had luck chipping away at the glue and pulling them out. There is a spike that they push onto and you can simply epoxy new ones in.
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Yep!......
 
Hello everyone,

I'm back, and now I'm more excited than ever. She's running...sort of...

Here's where I'm at:

1. She'll start (I had a problem with the ignition coils, I bought new Dynatek coils and got those installed)
2. After I get her started I can get her to idle at the 1500rpm range for about 2-3 minutes. (choke off)
3. After she warms up, the idle jumps to 3000 to 3500rpm. I have no idea why?
4. I have played with the idle screw soo much I am beginning to think that's not the problem, but I don't know.
5. I'm trying to get her to idle at about 1000 so I can connect my manometer and sync the carbs...but no luck soo far.
6. Plugs are clean and clear
7. I have had to stuff the air box with a towel to get the air right for the intake. My air box is sealed properly, but would start unless I restricted the air more than the air box allowed. I know it's not right and I don't want to do that, but she wouldn't start otherwise.
8. When she's running, she sounds great, the throttle is responsive, no bogging, but the inability to tune properly is frustrating.

Where do I go from here?

If there is previous post that someone can direct me too, that would be helpful I would be thankful. I don't want to be too intrusive to others, but I really need the help and direction.

You have all been soo helpful...thanks!
 
I don't remember what year and model bike you have.
It's possible you need to put new o-rings on the intake boots.
You say you did not clean the carbs with new o-rings?
 
1980 GS 850 GLT

Carbs were rebuilt with everything new.

Intake boots are brand new too.
 
A climbing idle is a classic example of an air leak.
What about the petcock?
 
Climbing idle...I wish! Let's call it a jumping idle.

It's like someone cranked on the throttle, then held it steady.

Petcock is rebuilt and working perfectly.

Where would I look for an air leak? I'm already getting too much air to the intakes anyway. I don't that's it, but I'll check anything at this point!

I appreciate your time...thanks!
 
It's a spongy air filter that came with the bike.

It's clean, but I don't think that the sponge in the inside makes a tight seal at all. That's why I tucked a towel in the air box with it.

Would that somehow explain the jump in idle?

Everything else around the outside of the air box is sealed perfectly.
 
Hello everyone,

I'm back, and now I'm more excited than ever. She's running...sort of...

Here's where I'm at:

1. She'll start (I had a problem with the ignition coils, I bought new Dynatek coils and got those installed)
2. After I get her started I can get her to idle at the 1500rpm range for about 2-3 minutes. (choke off)
3. After she warms up, the idle jumps to 3000 to 3500rpm. I have no idea why?
4. I have played with the idle screw soo much I am beginning to think that's not the problem, but I don't know.
5. I'm trying to get her to idle at about 1000 so I can connect my manometer and sync the carbs...but no luck soo far.
6. Plugs are clean and clear
7. I have had to stuff the air box with a towel to get the air right for the intake. My air box is sealed properly, but would start unless I restricted the air more than the air box allowed. I know it's not right and I don't want to do that, but she wouldn't start otherwise.
8. When she's running, she sounds great, the throttle is responsive, no bogging, but the inability to tune properly is frustrating.

Where do I go from here?

If there is previous post that someone can direct me too, that would be helpful I would be thankful. I don't want to be too intrusive to others, but I really need the help and direction.

You have all been soo helpful...thanks!
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Good Morning, I'm still looking for some help with the above listed problems. Any ideas?
 
I would still be a little hesistant to declare that carbs are not the issue with your bike. If it were mine, I would pull carbs and double check that passageways are clear and floats are correctly set and jets are correct. Here if they were cleaned as you have stated, a quick shot of aerosol carb cleaner sprayed through the small passageways will verify if it truly was cleaned properly. I would measure float levels and make sure that adjustment screws tips are clean and not broken off from over zealous PO. May even check static fuel level in bowls to ensure floats and fuel valve working right. Until I can visually confirm carbs, I don't rule them out. Previous owners can take short cuts or simply just don't do a thorough job.

While I had carbs out, check the condition of carb boot o rings, making sure they are sealing properly and in good shape. If the past owner had replaced them, you should encounter rounded cross sectional orings, not the typical, hard flattened degraded orings from original build.

Then put it back together after a visual carb sync and see what is happening.

I know this can be daunting since you may not be well versed in these carbs but a lot of us see these carb parts in our sleep. Take pictures of carbs and post up your questions, we can usually get these running correctly again. Hang in there, you can do this.
 
brian said:
Good Morning, I'm still looking for some help with the above listed problems. Any ideas?
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Hi,

1. Visit my website.

2. Click on the READ ME page and pay particular attention to the maintenance lists. There are also links to pertinent information and guides.

3. Read the rest of the tutorials on my website which concern your carbs, airbox sealing, intake repair, etc.

4. Affect repairs as necessary.

All of the regular maintenance items critical to these bikes have been addressed on my website. They're all there in one handy location with lots of pictures. Even if they are not for your specific motorcycle they will be beneficial because the procedures are basically the same for all of the GS models.

EDIT: You have a 1980 GS850G so most of the information on my website will apply directly to your motorcycle.

Let me know if you have any questions.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
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