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No more pods ! ! !

Spyder

Spyder

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Couldn't stand the pain in my a$$ pods anymore. 75mph rich/lean/rich depending on how the wind was blowing. Had enough!

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And she runs like a scalded dog now. Very fast, very smooth...
 
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Looks like you had your manifolds on the wrong side of the bike with the pods. The carbs sure hang low in those photos. I've ridden in heavy wind, and rain and never had any problems.
 
No, a PO only put 140 jets in when they did pipe and pods. Carbs are otherwise stock. I've been avoiding a full rebuild for many circumstantial reasons that keep coming up. She ran good though, just not perfect. I kept doing little bits here and there with much improvement. This however was the best thing I've done yet. When I do my 7-11 swap I will properly build the 36mm 1100 carbs. Plug chops, jetting, needles, everything right...
 
Billy Ricks said:
Looks like you had your manifolds on the wrong side of the bike with the pods. The carbs sure hang low in those photos. I've ridden in heavy wind, and rain and never had any problems.
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They did sag some, made it a bitch to line everything up...
 
Spyder said:
No, a PO only put 140 jets in when they did pipe and pods. Carbs are otherwise stock. I've been avoiding a full rebuild for many circumstantial reasons that keep coming up. She ran good though, just not perfect. I kept doing little bits here and there with much improvement. This however was the best thing I've done yet. When I do my 7-11 swap I will properly build the 36mm 1100 carbs. Plug chops, jetting, needles, everything right...
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If they only plugged in some bigger mains they may as well not have bothered. The needles are the key component in a jet kit. Shimming the needles can help but the taper is all wrong. With the carbs hanging like that it probably threw the fuel level in the bowls off creating mixture problems.
 
Billy Ricks said:
If they only plugged in some bigger mains they may as well not have bothered. The needles are the key component in a jet kit. Shimming the needles can help but the taper is all wrong. With the carbs hanging like that it probably threw the fuel level in the bowls off creating mixture problems.
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I agree completely. I seriously had no time to fix it. Until this year I worked over the road. I was LUCKY if I put 1k per year on it. When I had some spare time, I rode it. Earlier this year I transferred to the I.T. Dept. in my company. Anyway, now I have the time she deserves. Just don't have the $$ she needs lol. It'll get there this winter. Just tryin to get her through this season before a major tear down and rebuild with a fresh 1100.
 
Spyder said:
I agree completely. I seriously had no time to fix it. Until this year I worked over the road. I was LUCKY if I put 1k per year on it. When I had some spare time, I rode it. Earlier this year I transferred to the I.T. Dept. in my company. Anyway, now I have the time she deserves. Just don't have the $$ she needs lol. It'll get there this winter. Just tryin to get her through this season before a major tear down and rebuild with a fresh 1100.
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If you have it running sweet with the airbox then there's nothing wrong with going with it. Better to ride than fiddle.
 
Billy Ricks said:
If you have it running sweet with the airbox then there's nothing wrong with going with it. Better to ride than fiddle.
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Exactly! I sold the filter box coz I knew it would give me jetting, and adjusting grief. Plus I am a believer in K&N filters. Just not out in the open like the pods were. It was only a guess\hope that I would get the results that I did...
 
You did the right thing - I played with pods for years, and I never got them to work as well (overall) as the airbox.

I remember years ago, I think it was in '82 or '83, one of the cycle mags took a stock bike, dyno tested it, put on a pipe, put on some pods, and it dynoed 1/2 hp less than stock, even after they bumped the main jets up 4 steps. But the bike did weigh less than stock, and had more ground clearance, so they figured it was worth it.

My '83 1100 has a pipe, a stage one dynojet kit, with the smaller 110 jets, stock airbox, and it runs smooth and makes great power. Does it make more HP than stock? I'll never know, will I ? :)

I've had some sick ideas though - a big block kit, bigger jets, and a few teeth more on the rear sprocket - I think my bike would run in the high 10's - even at this altitude -
 
Spyder said:
Exactly! I sold the filter box coz I knew it would give me jetting, and adjusting grief. Plus I am a believer in K&N filters. Just not out in the open like the pods were. It was only a guess\hope that I would get the results that I did...
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Not to hijack your thread, and I like the fact that you went back to the somewhat stock airbox setup, but what is it about K&N filters that you like? I am one for using the stock filter because I think it filters the air better.
 
1980GS1000E said:
Not to hijack your thread, and I like the fact that you went back to the somewhat stock airbox setup, but what is it about K&N filters that you like? I am one for using the stock filter because I think it filters the air better.
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Stock paper filters do not filter any better than a properly oiled K&N. A K&N however will flow significantly better. But not only that, a paper filter costs you each time you replace it. K&N is cleanable over and over. I paid 37.00 shipped for it. Idk what a stock filter cost, but eventually you will be paying more in the end. How much is a stock paper filter anyway?
 
I saw some hot rod show do the same test (but with a big block gas engine). Accept the included one more aspect to their test subjects. A properly OILED K&N filter. Like the test you posted, they also tested a K&N right out of the box (no oil) and it failed miserably too. I was a certified automotive technician for over 8 years. I have performed dyno tests myself on vehicles with different intake setups. So I do claim to know a bit about it.

But for every test ever performed on and about anything you can think of there are many other tests on the same thing with opposite results. Just the way the world works.

So, in conclusion, I'll keep using them because I know they work. You may not use them because you have doubts. A paper filter is sufficient enough to protect your engine from dirt and grime.
 
In my experience, the K&N filters do flow more dirt. What sold me was the sunshine test. Oh, the stock filter is about 10 to 15 bucks, IIRC.
 
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