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Ok, so I got the pipes off...

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...and now I have to get 'em back onto my '83 850L:o. Other than space to work under the bike, my current problem is getting the balance pipe snug into those sidetrack pipes from the muffler/outside header pipes. For some reason the clamps seem too big now to squeeze the female end over the male/balance end. When I tighten the clamps I run out of screw and the clamps are still loose. I can't figger what changed since I took 'em off. The balance pipes were wrapped with something, I suppose to make for a snug fit, but there's something else going on because the tape wasn't nearly thick enough to make the difference. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Been years...But .....


There were some tub gaskets in the pipes to make up the space that are fairly think and heavy ... You are saying "wrapped"... The tub gasket was not a wrap ... But one peace and made of some sort of mesh and were gray ... Wondering if the tub gasket is gone and some sort of wrap was used ... I would think some sort of header wrap would work in a pinch ...

And yes there should be a gasket in there ..

Hope you get it fixed and sorry on the troubles

David

Hazardous Toys inc
 
Thanks, David...I peeled one of the "wraps" off another side and it looked like heavy tape of some kind, like that rough electrician's tape, about 1 1/2" wide. Not enough thickness to account for the disparity, though. When I get home I'm gonna check and see if I flipped the balance pipe...maybe the front/back pipes are different diameter? I dunno, it's weird (but probably obvious to someone who knows what they're doing).
 
Yeah, you need the exhaust gaskets. They're akin to gold plated titanium in price. When I bought mine I was taken a bit aback by the prices. Sticker shock will slam dunk you, I guarantee that.:D Some PO might have put electrical tape on the ferrules because of the prices or just didn't know any better. Electrical tape doesn't work too well with exhaust heat......:eek:
 
Exhaust "connectors", upon further searching. Found Redman's tutorial thanks to Basscliff...kf anyone could point me in the right direction to price (gulp) the oems...?
 
I would go back to Basscliff's welcome page and look at all the vendors he recommends there. You'll find differing prices but probably in the vicinity of $25 each.
 
For just a little less money, you can eliminate the crossover entirely. :eek:

I had to do that to an 850 I had for a while. The crossover was rusted away at one of the outlets.

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I went to the auto parts store, got 1 1/2" exhaust tubing, the kind that is expanded slightly at one end. The shortest I could find was 18" long, you only need 7". You would think that you could get by with one piece of tubing, and you could, if you had a pipe expander. I got two pieces of tubing for $6.99 each.

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You have to cut a slit on the larger end so the clamp can squeeze it a bit, but I did not need any gaskets with that.

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Steve said:
For just a little less money, you can eliminate the crossover entirely. :eek:

I had to do that to an 850 I had for a while. The crossover was rusted away at one of the outlets.
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"For just a little less money..." Har har....

Thank you very much, Steve...I'm gonna check this out. It would be way easier to put back on since I'm working alone and on the floor (and without much knowlege...I pretty much have to reinvent the wheel for each task.)
 
cowboyup3371 said:
I would go back to Basscliff's welcome page and look at all the vendors he recommends there. You'll find differing prices but probably in the vicinity of $25 each.
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Thanks...I did look through the vendors, got bogged down in part numbers and choices and terminology. Thought maybe someone could point me to a particular vendor etc. I'll slog on...
 
No problem - I think I would give some thought to Steve's suggestion to simply replace that funky middle connector piece.
 
I'm definitely going to try that one; love the idea of putting the L and R side on separately without having to line up the balancer and jig everything correctly and then tighten up etc...
 
Jim,
I look at a lot of different vendors but typically go with either Z1 or my local shop since my military ID discount puts them on par with what everyone else charges with shipping. But again, take a look as Steve's noted on other posts that one shop will be cheaper than another on any given day for any given part. Plus, unless you hit someplace like BikeBandit (I think it's them), most everyone has the same part number for the same thing.
 
A big piece of the puzzle; I had no idea. Thanks, Allie!

Having recently had my exhaust system off, I'd like to note that the clamps shown in the fiche seem to be very different in function from the typical automotive muffler clamp. The pipes themselves do not actually get crimped by the clamp, rather they the tighten down on the fiber thingy which encircles the pipe. I think that fiber thingy butts up against the other pipe forming a seal, and the clamp keeps the thingy firmly in place. All pipes are held firmly in place by either the mounting rings at the head, or bolts to the frame - there is no give or play in the system, so these fiber thingamahoozits are able to keep a constant seal. So the practical summary is, the clamps do not hold the two pipes together. Errr, how did I do?
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