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PLEASE HELP ME!

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I thought i needed a new starter relay. I got one and still nothing. The bike has power but it seems like power is not going from the relay to the starter. Heres what i have.

Power to the fuse box
Power out of the fuse box
Working starter
The start button is gettting power

I have used 3 different relays so im sure thats not the problem. Any ideas??
 
Remove the starter cover and see if there is 12 volts on the starter connection or not when you hit the starter button. If nothing is there remove the wire from the starter and check again, still nothing go back to the solenoid and see if it is present on the starter wire side there. Still nothing check the ground connections for the starter solenoid, make sure it clicks when you hit the button.


If removing the starter wire shows power , the starter may be shorted. If there is power on the starter and nothing happens, it is open and may need brushes.


Check the engine grounds.

I assume you have installed the battery :wink:

(Just kidding)
 
I know this may sound stupid, but are you holding the clutch lever in? The clutch has a safety switch on it that may be the problem.
 
yes we have held the clutch in, but i think the safety swtich is broken off but we hold it in just in case. Anyone else? I will try the above when i get home from work tonight.

Thanks!
 
if you think the clutch switch is broken, follow the wires to the wiring harness and connect the two ends, effectly eliminating the kill switch in the clutch
 
Still nothing check the ground connections for the starter solenoid, make sure it clicks when you hit the button.


I do not have a ground on the relay. The only wire that comes from the ground side is the wire that goes to the starter. Should i run a ground from the neg side of the relay to the neg on the battery?
 
Absolutely NOT. There are NO negative or ground wires on the starter solenoid. They are all hot.

Earl

my98xplorer said:
I do not have a ground on the relay. The only wire that comes from the ground side is the wire that goes to the starter. Should i run a ground from the neg side of the relay to the neg on the battery?
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earlfor said:
Absolutely NOT. There are NO negative or ground wires on the starter solenoid. They are all hot.

Earl

my98xplorer said:
I do not have a ground on the relay. The only wire that comes from the ground side is the wire that goes to the starter. Should i run a ground from the neg side of the relay to the neg on the battery?
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So Earl, do you have any suggestions??
 
The metal case of the solenoid is the ground. THe metal case should be "grounded" If it is hanging in free air or connected to a rubber grommet it will not work.
 
Check the "return" side of your started button circuit. You said you have 12 volts "to" the starter button but are you getting 12 volts "out" of the other side of it when you press the button. And if so, is it making the trip back down to the solinoid?

This was my problem when I had the same issue. A broken wire coming off the return side of the starter button.
 
Hoomgar said:
Check the "return" side of your started button circuit. You said you have 12 volts "to" the starter button but are you getting 12 volts "out" of the other side of it when you press the button. And if so, is it making the trip back down to the solinoid?

This was my problem when I had the same issue. A broken wire coming off the return side of the starter button.
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The only wire i checked for power was that is from the start button is the one that goes to the relay. It has about 10v when i push the button. Im still stumped? Also, the relay and fuse box are mounted to a metal plate next to the battery.
 
Have you checked the solinoid? By crossing the terminals will it crank?
 
Is 12 volts present at the starter terminal when you try to start the bike?

You really should start their and work your way back to the solenoid.
 
Hoomgar said:
Have you checked the solinoid? By crossing the terminals will it crank?
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Ok first i wanna make sure of something. The relay and the solenoid are the same thing right? If so i have not done what you are talking about. Would i just take a wire and touch it from 1 terminal to the other?
 
duaneage said:
Is 12 volts present at the starter terminal when you try to start the bike?

You really should start their and work your way back to the solenoid.
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Where do you mean? Are you talking about the wire that comes from the starter and hooks onto the relay?
 
my98xplorer said:
Hoomgar said:
Have you checked the solinoid? By crossing the terminals will it crank?
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Ok first i wanna make sure of something. The relay and the solenoid are the same thing right? If so i have not done what you are talking about. Would i just take a wire and touch it from 1 terminal to the other?
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You can use a screw driver or a pair of pliers. Anything with an insulated handle and that will keep your hand away from the ensuring sparks but yes you simply short the two terminals together and she should kick. If not, then you either have no juice to the solinoid or it is shot.
 
there's no juice going from the starter button to the relay, so either the button's shot or dirty ,or, there's an open in the return wire
 
I have about 10v going from the button to the relay. I checked it right before the relay and sure enough, you hit the button and juice goes through. Any other idea?? Im stumped!
 
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