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I was told pod filters were a bad idea in upstate new york. I have an 83 1100ed with a 4-1 aftermarket exhaust. Any suggestions why or why not?
 
I'm not sure what geoghraphy has to do with the success of a pod installation. :-k

You do have to re-jet the carbs to compensate for the additional air flow, but you have to do that anywhere. The only thing that comes to mind is something that I read some time ago that said when the pods get wet (in the rain), they tend to plug up and don't pass enough air for the bike to run. :-s

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i've run mine for several years with no problem.

maybe it has something to do with the govt - like all the good air gets sent to new york city, like our money.
 
Yeah, my bet is that the jetting you'll have to do for the pods will make you rich enough (especially with a dyno kit) that it won't pass emissions. This assumes they test bikes there. Bikes aren't tested in my state.
 
If the pods are dialed in correctly, they shouldnt have any problem passing any E-check. Tho i dont know of any state off hand that tests bikes, save for maybe Cali, cos they test everything. But i dunno if they even do there. At any rate, the fuel/air mixture is a set thing. There is a small window at which the ratio is correct, and its SMALL. Yeah you may end up a little leaner or richer than stock (these bikes came LEAN from the factory) but if the bike is running correctly, the ratio has to be within those limitations, stock, or running pods and a pipes. This is why you have to rejet to begin with. The finicky-ness of this window is greatly exagerated on bikes, simply because we're dealing with multiple carbs, less vaccum pull than a car, and less tollerance for imbalance in the ratio.

Where you MIGHT run into trouble with any emissions inspection, is if they examine the carbs at all from the outside. To get the mixture correct, you will have to remove the plugs that the factory put over the mixture screws, which is a violation of the law!8-[ BUT as i said i dont know of any states that, at least at this point, do emissions testing on motorcycles. If anything, i would think the local governments would tend to give bikes a break, since they are so much more fuel efficiant, and unless they have been seriously modded, likely a bit more clean than your average car.
 
Get a Dynojet kit part # 3133. Then get the K&N pods part # RC-0984.
Install the kit using the instructions. Except put the needle on the second notch from the bottom and use the 132 DJ main. Also put the idle mxture screws around three turns out.
 
chef1366 said:
Get a Dynojet kit part # 3133. Then get the K&N pods part # RC-0984.
Install the kit using the instructions. Except put the needle on the second notch from the bottom and use the 132 DJ main. Also put the idle mxture screws around three turns out.
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I took your recommendations for my own 1100E Chef. (138/170/45.7/Second Notch)
I still have the stock 180 pilot air jets (Waiting almost a month now for them from Motorcyclecarbs.com...) And without even more than a bench sync the bike will idle with half choke bone cold. She'll even accept THROTTLE after a just a good ten seconds of running. I can't wait to get her dialed in :)
 
Great results with the dyno kit as well. I'm a little rich, plugs are black, but don't foul out. I only have to use choke at all if it's really cold out and it's sat for several days. If I ran it yesterday and it's above 50 degress, I give it about 1/8th throttle with no choke and it fires right up. I'm hoping my upcoming valve adjustment and sync bumop the milage a smidge. I don't run it super hard, but only getting about 25 MPG (it's a 1000).
 
If your plugs are black, you are running too rich. Running rich will drastically reduce your mileage, and contributes significantly to pollution.
There is no reason that your bike should get much less than 40 or so mpg.


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Steve said:
If your plugs are black, you are running too rich. Running rich will drastically reduce your mileage, and contributes significantly to pollution.
There is no reason that your bike should get much less than 40 or so mpg.


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Plan is to adjust valves, sync carbs, open up the exhaust and then if still rich revisit the carb setup. Performance is great, good throttle respose, very few flat spots. You better believe you know when it hits that 170 main jet, takes off like a missile.
 
Thanks for the tip Chef. I don't think I've seen that one before. I got those very parts on order and looking forward to installing them (and new coils and wires and relay mod)

"Get a Dynojet kit part # 3133. Then get the K&N pods part # RC-0984.
Install the kit using the instructions. Except put the needle on the second notch from the bottom and use the 132 DJ main. Also put the idle mxture screws around three turns out."
 
doctorgonzo said:
Plan is to adjust valves, sync carbs, open up the exhaust and then if still rich revisit the carb setup. Performance is great, good throttle respose, very few flat spots. You better believe you know when it hits that 170 main jet, takes off like a missile.
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170 main?!

What happened, did just running the fuel line straight into the cylinders and putting the petcock on prime not work well enough? :-D
 
Ozmiander said:
170 main?!

What happened, did just running the fuel line straight into the cylinders and putting the petcock on prime not work well enough? :-D
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haha... I know. That was the recommendation in the instructions. Needle on the third notch, 170 Main (stock was 115), screws 2.5 turns. I can't remember the size of the pilot jet, but it was bigger for sure. The only think I've done is take the screws back down to two turns. Like I said, it runs great. Just poor mileage and sooty plugs, but not so sooty they foul out quickly. I pull them once a week and clean them just to prevent them from fouling out on the road. I've just had bigger fish to fry with the bike (like getting the electrics in order for good spark) than revisiting the carbs just yet. They are on the list.
 
doctorgonzo said:
haha... I know. That was the recommendation in the instructions. Needle on the third notch, 170 Main (stock was 115), screws 2.5 turns. I can't remember the size of the pilot jet, but it was bigger for sure. The only think I've done is take the screws back down to two turns. Like I said, it runs great. Just poor mileage and sooty plugs, but not so sooty they foul out quickly. I pull them once a week and clean them just to prevent them from fouling out on the road. I've just had bigger fish to fry with the bike (like getting the electrics in order for good spark) than revisiting the carbs just yet. They are on the list.
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That is for an eight valve and you pressed in a smaller main air jet.
 
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