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Pod Support Program

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Hello, I am Mister Cinders, and I use pods.

Actually, I am looking for some mechanical support ideas.

Recently, I had to replace my intake boots because at least one had developed a crack along the upper seam. The boots were otherwise pretty soft, clean, etc.

I suspect that the weight of the pods/carbs cantilevered on those boots contributed to the cracking. Without the airbox bolted at the back, the intake boots have to support more weight than originally intended.

Before my new boots get addicted to crack, I want to rig up something to support the carbs/pods from the back end, taking some of the stress off the boots.

I tried just tying a loop of wire from the pods to the frame, but it looked ghetto as hell. Getting it taut was too tricky. The pods/carbs don't have that much play in them, but the small jiggle they get when you hit a bump is precisely what I aim to secure. There also was no good way to center the wire, since looping it under the 2/3 pods put the wire in the path of the idle screw, making it a PITA to adjust under the tank. So the wire approach looks crappy, doesn't give the support I want, and interferes with idle adjustment. Strike out.

Has anyone found a clean way to support the rear of their pod/carb assembly? I thought about using a pipe strap or even rigging up something with some light cable and a turnbuckle so I could really lock the back end down. If there's a way to support them from underneath, that could be cool, but I don't see how that might work.

Ideas?
 
i have been working on a bracket/support for my carbs as well for a while now. still in prototype at the moment but so far my best idea has been a bracket that uses the rear oil pressure switch cover mounting bolt and then secures to no.3 float bowl screws.
still investigating so if anyone comes up with a better idea, please let us know
 
MisterCinders said:
Before my new boots get addicted to crack, I want to rig up something to support the carbs/pods from the back end, taking some of the stress off the boots.
Ideas?
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Priceless... I have a few ideas, I'll sketch something up... I mounted my "non-pod far from stock" arrangement right off the frame. I'll come up with something that doesnt require welding.
 
I joined two long, heavy-duty zip-ties together and looped it around the frame to hold my pods up on my 1100EX.

Works pretty well - simply set the tension by pulling on the zip-tie. Keeps them from bouncing around.
 
Agemax said:
i have been working on a bracket/support for my carbs as well for a while now. still in prototype at the moment but so far my best idea has been a bracket that uses the rear oil pressure switch cover mounting bolt and then secures to no.3 float bowl screws.
still investigating so if anyone comes up with a better idea, please let us know
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Didn't you have that clever pipe rig to replace the bowl drain hoses?

Something like that with some rubber bumpers might be suitable as a "kickstand" for the back. That would at least reduce the flexing in the boots that happens every time tkent has to bring the front wheel back down at a red-light.
 
I wonder if you could work out a bracket that bolts under the intake boot bolts and wraps around the sides, then bottom back of the carb? Does that make sense how I describe what I am thinking? I'm thinking something similar to the choke or gang rail on the carbs.

However, there may be too much torque on such a setup to provide real support, with the gauge of metal you'd have to use.
 
MisterCinders said:
Didn't you have that clever pipe rig to replace the bowl drain hoses?

Something like that with some rubber bumpers might be suitable as a "kickstand" for the back. That would at least reduce the flexing in the boots that happens every time tkent has to bring the front wheel back down at a red-light.
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yes i still have it fitted but it is not strong enough to act as a "sturdy" mount.
what about a simple (slightly bent/angled) tie bar that connects the front screw of the carb tops on 1 & 4 to the outer rear cam cover mounting bolts?
 
Agemax said:
yes i still have it fitted but it is not strong enough to act as a "sturdy" mount.
what about a simple (slightly bent/angled) tie bar that connects the front screw of the carb tops on 1 & 4 to the outer rear cam cover mounting bolts?
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Even simpler idea ^^^.

That might not stand out too much, either
 
could even be made to look bling if made with a nice bit of polished aluminium.
hmmmmmm think i may look at this tomorrow
 
I'm gonna see what happens here... I never even thought about it!

Probably not as big an issue with only 2 carbs but something to think about...
 
Agemax said:
... if made with a nice bit of polished aluminium.
hmmmmmm ...
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Yummm.

Polished aluminum. :rolleyes: :cool:

On other bits that seldom see the light of day.

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Steve said:
Those are just the "never seen" bits.

For the ones that do matter, I make sure they are SHINY: :cool:

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I was scrolling very slowly, and at first I thought you had embedded a penny in your float bowl...those are some shiny bowls. What's YOUR secret?
 
MC,

I think the problem is that you're trying to support the pods, when you really need to support the back of the carbs

A small bracket that fits on the float bowl screws on the outside of #2 and #3 (or between 1-2 and 3-4) and secured to the frame (or propped up on the cases) should do the trick
 
Big T said:
MC,

I think the problem is that you're trying to support the pods, when you really need to support the back of the carbs

A small bracket that fits on the float bowl screws on the outside of #2 and #3 (or between 1-2 and 3-4) and secured to the frame (or propped up on the cases) should do the trick
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If you are going to use any of the carb screws, I'd stick to the top covers. The bowls go on before installing the carbs. Pulling one screw to fit a brace is probably no big deal, but you are usually synching carbs after a reinstallation, so adding a step to replacing those tops will be easier than doubling back to the bowl screws.
 
I've been thinking about the same thing on my 1100. My plan is to use an exhaust pipe hanger like this http://www.amazon.com/Walker-35209-Exhaust-Hardware-Hanger/dp/B000C8ZAMS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1338939070&sr=8-5
This has a small section of reinforced rubber strip to help absorb some vibration.
Straighten the lower piece , drill a hole or two and bolt to the rail that connects the carb bank together in the back. Bend the top piece and wrap around a frame tube with some rubber around it. I
 
You could always try propping them up with a cinder block :lol:

MisterCinders said:
Hello, I am Mister Cinders, and I use pods.

Actually, I am looking for some mechanical support ideas.

Recently, I had to replace my intake boots because at least one had developed a crack along the upper seam. The boots were otherwise pretty soft, clean, etc.

I suspect that the weight of the pods/carbs cantilevered on those boots contributed to the cracking. Without the airbox bolted at the back, the intake boots have to support more weight than originally intended.

Before my new boots get addicted to crack, I want to rig up something to support the carbs/pods from the back end, taking some of the stress off the boots.

I tried just tying a loop of wire from the pods to the frame, but it looked ghetto as hell. Getting it taut was too tricky. The pods/carbs don't have that much play in them, but the small jiggle they get when you hit a bump is precisely what I aim to secure. There also was no good way to center the wire, since looping it under the 2/3 pods put the wire in the path of the idle screw, making it a PITA to adjust under the tank. So the wire approach looks crappy, doesn't give the support I want, and interferes with idle adjustment. Strike out.

Has anyone found a clean way to support the rear of their pod/carb assembly? I thought about using a pipe strap or even rigging up something with some light cable and a turnbuckle so I could really lock the back end down. If there's a way to support them from underneath, that could be cool, but I don't see how that might work.

Ideas?
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I have thought about making a "T" type bracket that would mount under the two center carbs and bolt to the block somehow.

Eric.
 
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