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RATTLE CAN WORKS of art -- SHOW ME ----

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I have learned that people who paint are real defensive about thier profession. It's as if it's a black magic or something, and that anyone who trys to do-it-yourself is either going to kill themselves with fumes or fire, or is bound to end up with a terrible finish product. Bullsh!t. As with anything, if you do some research and secure the proper tools, you can do as good a job as any pro.

Good luck Steve, hope it comes out a beauty!
 
Ogri said:
You must have a certain number of air exchanges for the paint to be glossy as well. As the paint dries, solvents are released. If those solvents are not carried away from the fresh paint you will get what is commonly referred to as "solvent burn". The part will have a flat fuzzy appearance. So, leaving the part in the tent or putting a box over it will diminish the gloss..
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i didn't mean to seal it off just to keep the dust from falling on it, set it on saw horses and cover with a dust free big box. he is using a fan and filters


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Ogri said:
Step up to the plate and get the job done right.
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he is trying to.
 
Jethro said:
I have learned that people who paint are real defensive about thier profession. It's as if it's a black magic or something, and that anyone who trys to do-it-yourself is either going to kill themselves with fumes or fire, or is bound to end up with a terrible finish product. Bullsh!t. As with anything, if you do some research and secure the proper tools, you can do as good a job as any pro.

Good luck Steve, hope it comes out a beauty!
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One of my best friends has painted henry ford the duce's gt 40, jack roush's boss 429, show cars, race cars, probably one of the best i've seen, he was a hvac repair man for ma bell (at&t) by trade and his favorite color to paint was black! why? because it showed his work. care to guess were he painted?? (hint in his garage)

thank's for all the lessons ... Ed N.
 
Felt bad because I am doing my bike on a budget (rather ,no budget) and I rattle canned it . Then I find out that the paint doesnt hold up to gas, looks like crap etc., etc,. Well the bike is done and it looks ok but...... Will send a pic ... Go with what you can afford I guess...:-D
 
Jethro said:
I have learned that people who paint are real defensive about thier profession. It's as if it's a black magic or something, and that anyone who trys to do-it-yourself is either going to kill themselves with fumes or fire, or is bound to end up with a terrible finish product. Bullsh!t. As with anything, if you do some research and secure the proper tools, you can do as good a job as any pro.

Good luck Steve, hope it comes out a beauty!
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Thanks for the vote of confidence ... the amusing thing is that the main paint job is for Greg (Nerobro). My plan is to help him with his project and learn a few things in the process. If the opportunity presents itself I'll spray a few pieces on mine that could benefit from a nice new coat of his "gloss black!"

Regards,
 
Devilwinner said:
Felt bad because I am doing my bike on a budget (rather ,no budget) and I rattle canned it . Then I find out that the paint doesnt hold up to gas, looks like crap etc., etc,. Well the bike is done and it looks ok but...... Will send a pic ... Go with what you can afford I guess...:-D
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Sounds like several people have done alright by following their rattlecan jobs with a good gas-resistent clear-coat. You might want to look into those options before you let any gas hit the new paintjob...

Good Luck!
 
Desolation Angel said:
Yeah, I like that. All of the stuff so far amazes me with how good it looks.
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IMNSHO - that fairing looks FAAAAAAAR better than the OEM "E" fairing.



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Being as I do another sort of automotive black art (custom exhaust work) I can tell you for certain that while it doesn't require a third elbow or an imaginary guardian chicken, specialty things like paint and any custom work is something that comes out better as you gain experience with it.
I should say thought that there are some people the pick things up like they are instinct and they are the ones to have on the "owes me beer" list.
 
Devilwinner said:
Felt bad because I am doing my bike on a budget (rather ,no budget) and I rattle canned it . Then I find out that the paint doesnt hold up to gas, looks like crap etc., etc,. Well the bike is done and it looks ok but...... Will send a pic ... Go with what you can afford I guess...:-D
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the two things that you need to consider when you do a rattle can paint job are... does it start and can i ride it?
 
Planecrazy said:
Thanks for the vote of confidence ... the amusing thing is that the main paint job is for Greg (Nerobro). My plan is to help him with his project and learn a few things in the process. If the opportunity presents itself I'll spray a few pieces on mine that could benefit from a nice new coat of his "gloss black!"

Regards,
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Use Greg's bike as a Guinea pig, then paint your own. Got it ;) :lol:
 
Nerobro said:
GENIUS! I'll start hunting tents.
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Don't even need a tent...built small shelter using plastic sheething and 1 x 1's. Make sure you keep the floor wet to keep the dust down and to keep the paint from sticking. Use a box fan with a furnace filter taped across the face. It takes some time and effort to set it up properly, but it's well worth it.

Also, as you probably knew, the devil is in the details. The prep work has more to do with the results than your technique with the can. You absolutely need to have a clean, smooth surface. That means a good job with filler, sandable primer (yup, you can get it in a spray can) and careful color sanding before. You might also pick up on of those add on spray can handles to give yourself more control and a better grip on your spray can.

Let 'er rip!

Allen Dye
'78 GS1000C Now...
Who knows what it'll be later!
 
Ironbutt said:
Don't even need a tent...built small shelter using plastic sheething and 1 x 1's. Make sure you keep the floor wet to keep the dust down and to keep the paint from sticking. Use a box fan with a furnace filter taped across the face. It takes some time and effort to set it up properly, but it's well worth it.
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I acutaly think I can manage the tent cheaper. The box fan and filters were already in the cards.
Also, as you probably knew, the devil is in the details. The prep work has more to do with the results than your technique with the can. You absolutely need to have a clean, smooth surface. That means a good job with filler, sandable primer (yup, you can get it in a spray can) and careful color sanding before. You might also pick up on of those add on spray can handles to give yourself more control and a better grip on your spray can.
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Exactly. Those 80 hours on paint were mostly prep work. I think I had the color done in two days. And it was REALLY, REALLY beautiful. Just look at post #16 in this thread. Rattle can, can look great. Does look great. I just felt like shooting myself when the paint went to hell after the first sniff of gasoline. :-/ Thankfully my prep work isn't for naught. if I don't use a chemical stripper I can save my surface prep.

I also have three tanks to paint, so there's lots of time for practice. I don't think Steve is looking to paint much this first time through. I kinda feel like I've learned what I can learn with rattle can, and it's time to move on. I just wish I could afford $300 in paint to do the paint I dream of.
 
The real problem with shooting with HVLP is the psi has to be consistant at the gun. compressors with a small reserve tank have to fill there reserves more often and can cause inconsistancies in the finished product. I love my sharp gravity feed HVLP for base coats, but I still use the old devilbis JGA for higher solids products. It lays clear coat down like glass. Having said that, i am going to try and do the hood of my truck with rattle cans, but i am still using base/clear to do it.
 
What is the PSI requirement for the average gun? I've noticed that when I use the blow gun on my little compressor it is able to maintain a nice consistent 75PSI. If the gun requirement is no higher than this I shouldn't have a problem with the small (8 gallon) capacity tank...

Regards,
 
My Hvlp reccomends 25 at the gun. i've done plus or minus 5 psi depending on how things lay out.there are more expensive guns out there that require less. The idea is basically, the less air, the less overspray. More paint actually ends up on what your painting than atomized into the air. My regular gun needs 40 to 45 psi or it just doesn't move enough material. You can get a fairly inexpensive regulator/gauge that goes between the air gun and the hose. pull the trigger just enough to let the air flow to check/set the proper amount. I have another old gun that has a gauge built right into it(pops out of the end of the handle like a tire gauge) I hated the thing until I found out it wasn't reading accurate. the reg/gauge combo straightend things out nicely.
 
Planecrazy said:
Sounds like several people have done alright by following their rattlecan jobs with a good gas-resistent clear-coat. You might want to look into those options before you let any gas hit the new paintjob...

Good Luck!
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What are those gas resistant clear-coat options?? I would love to put them on my next project.
 
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